John 'the gorilla' Ryder

[Madison Boxing]

How good is he? I'm seeing him talked up as a legitimate opponent for canelo but he has losses against 3 fighters that Canelo has already beat (fielding, saunders, smith) and 2 to domestic level fighters (blackwell, arnfield).
Is there something i am missing here?

[Silence]

More alpha than your sissy beta a$$. That's enough for you.

[Mammoth]

How good is he? I'm seeing him talked up as a legitimate opponent for canelo but he has losses against 3 fighters that Canelo has already beat (fielding, saunders, smith) and 2 to domestic level fighters (blackwell, arnfield).
Is there something i am missing here?

Take the time to watch the three losses he has to the fighters you mentioned.

[Citizen Koba]

How good is he? I'm seeing him talked up as a legitimate opponent for canelo but he has losses against 3 fighters that Canelo has already beat (fielding, saunders, smith) and 2 to domestic level fighters (blackwell, arnfield).
Is there something i am missing here?

He should definitely have got the nod over Mundo and Fielding and Ryder vs Saunders was very much an either way fight. He's one of those hard luck fighters who just got repeatedly screwed. I don't think he's got much hope against Canelo but he's absolutely legit quite aside from being one of boxing's genuine nice guys who also always gives his all in the ring. Really happy to see him get the shot and the payday.

He was drained as **** at 160 by accounts and it really caught up to him in the Arnfield fight which is why he moved up immediately after. Blackwell vs Ryder is a legit loss although he was ahead at the time of the stoppage. These things happen.

In any event whilst I dont think anyone would describe John as elite he's far better than his record might suggest and legitimately top 5 at 168.

[Malvado]

Robbed against Callum Smith and defeated an unbeaten Zach Parker recently, but was given a gift win decision over 35 year old Daniel Jacobs who was unactive for three years in a row.

Would say he is like a gatekeeper of 168, perfect tune up for Canelo to test the waters after having a hand surgery.

If anyone deserves a tune up after facing four difficult opponents in a row it probably be the ginger they call cinnamon, though I can understand that people don't want him to fight anyone besides champions, albeit there is plenty of time as he is turning 33 years old.

[Madison Boxing]

Robbed against Callum Smith and defeated an unbeaten Zach Parker recently, but was given a gift win decision over 35 year old Daniel Jacobs who was unactive for three years in a row.

Would say he is like a gatekeeper of 168, perfect tune up for Canelo to test the waters after having a hand surgery.

If anyone deserves a tune up after facing four difficult opponents in a row it probably be the ginger they call cinnamon, though I can understand that people don't want him to fight anyone besides champions, there is time plenty of time as he is turning 33 years old.

sounds great

[Malvado]

sounds great

Yeah kind of embarrassing that he is fighting a boxer who got gift over a middleweight who was unactive for years, it's a guaranteed win considering what Cinnamon had done with a prime example of the "Miracle Man".

[just the facts]

More alpha than your sissy beta a$$. That's enough for you.

Wow, the least alpha pha66ot here just called someone else a sissy.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Could definitely make an argument he beat Smith and Fielding. Was very competitive with Saunders too.

I don’t think he can beat Canelo but he can definitely give a good account of himself. Canelo has fought a lot worse fighters than John Ryder in recent years.

[M312]

He will come to fight. He will not fear Canelo.

Not sure he'll be good enough, but he will not freeze.