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  • #11
    Would be nice if we could answer these questions when they meet. Sadly that’s not possible now

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    • #12
      Originally posted by 4truth View Post
      Would be nice if we could answer these questions when they meet. Sadly that’s not possible now
      wtf is the fight off or somethin?

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      • #13
        Hand Speed: Ryan A+/Tank A+:

        Ryan has the edge in terms of overall reach even if it doesn't like it at the press conferences, he be dangerous at any point of the fight while Gervonta will have to fight smart and work his way in.

        Which he won't struggle with considering his good footwork and defensive ability, however the barrier is there, this will be more taxing on one fighter over the other which would be Tank.

        Defense: Ryan B/ Tank B>A+:

        I would say that Gervonta Davis's defense ramps up as the fight continues which becomes more affective at the later stages of the fight as his opposition tire out and are more prone to making mistakes. Once it goes beyond the sixth round it becomes superb.

        In the other hand Ryan Garcia's defense while not the best, is actually there despite being subtle, optimized to fight overall shorter fighters by timing the distance and using the pull counter, he also sometimes ducks down or pulls up when his opponents are too close to comfort.

        Funnily enough though this move was utilized frequently by Floyd Mayweather against many opponents whether they were shorter or taller, yet it seems Tank doesn't recognize it when he stated Ryan has no skill.

        Accuracy: Ryan A+/ Tank B>A+:

        Ryan's precision is actually one of his strongest point's that Gervonta will struggle with, an example would the fight between Fury/Wilder, where despite that the former's defense is quite good, it is difficult to predict at what time and angle will the shot arrive when it comes to powerful athletic fighters timing their shots. Similarly to how Romero managed to land any punches, except Garcia's will be calculated.

        Power: Ryan A+/ Tank B>A+:

        Both have one punch knockout power; Tank delivers thudding shots already at the start of fight to wear down and tax his opponents but doesn't go for the finish until he is 100% sure that he can deliver the execution depending on how skilled or tired is his opposition.

        Ryan Garcia applies pressure on his opponent so he can control the pace and capitalize on their mistakes. Technically he switches from being the aggressor to the counterpuncher. Which can be both a strength and a weakness for this fight.

        Ring IQ: Ryan B/ Tank A+:

        Gervonta Davis is the veteran here and has the advantage in terms of experience against a wide variety of styles in pressure fighters (Santa Cruz/ Isaac Cruz/ Romero/Barrios) and (Jose Pedraza/Hector Garcia/Shot Gamboa). But to be fair though, if you apply context.

        -Leo Santa Cruz and Hector Garcia belonged at (126/130) struggling to hurt opposition at the lower weight classes.
        -Isaac Cruz had no experience at the elite level having to replace Rolly Romero in a three week notice.
        -Jose Pedraza was undefeated but never really beaten anyone of note until his loss, only winning against a shot Raymundo Beltran
        -Mario Barrios never really fought at the elite level until Tank and Thurman, having to really struggle for a decision win against Batyr Akhmedov.
        -Rolando Romero while athletically gifted, never had much skill inside the ring. Having no gameplan nor thought behind his punches.
        -Yoerkis Gamboa after his defeat to Crawford he became highly unactive as he lost to a journeyman in Robinson Castellanos, had a very controversial win against Jason Sosa who was knocked out in the fourth round by Berchelt, and had retired two shot fighters. Then he fought Tank.

        Ryan Garcia doesn't have much of a record either, but at least he had faced three southpaws in row, meaning he will know how to handle Tank's stance.

        Footwork: Ryan B/ Tank A+:

        Gervonta has the clear edge here, being able to use the strategy of hit and run, avoid more loaded shots and also has better odds of recovering if he gets caught unlike vice versa.

        Ryan is rather Stationary and linear with his footwork and doesn't use angles so he can retreat successfully. He only shifts when he has to apply pressure. His speed and power make up for it as his opponent will be careful in closing on.

        Stamina: Ryan A/ Tank B:

        Ryan Garcia had mostly focused on body conditioning in Reynoso's camp and had demonstrated a good gas tank through all his fights, as he didn't demonstrate any improvements or modifications when it comes to skillset.

        Eddy was more invested in Canelo Alvarez over his other fighters who left his camp. Gervonta Davis despite that he thrives on the later rounds, does tend to get taxed as he overuses his footwork and gets worn down by being tagged quite often.

        Prediction:

        My prediction would be that Ryan to capitalize and bank on the initial rounds, even if he doesn't get the finish, so he can dish out a significant amount of damage to wear down Davis so he can't ramp up and overwhelm him on the later rounds so can win by UD or TKO.

        That however will be a difficult task on itself considering Tank's footwork is vastly superior, can counter with a finishing shot and has superb defensive skills. Ryan has to utilize body work to immobilize him despite that not many fighters have really attempted to do so.

        Ryan will have to bring a good and executable gameplan to win the fight unlike Davis who develops as the fights comes along, he has both the athleticism of Romero that Davis struggled with along with a decent skill similar to Barrios. So, I say that he has 50/50 shot.
        Last edited by Feroz; 03-11-2023, 12:52 AM.
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        • #14
          Originally posted by Escorpion View Post
          Hand Speed: Ryan A+/Tank A+:

          Ryan has the edge in terms of overall reach even if it doesn't like it at the press conferences, he be dangerous at any point of the fight while Gervonta will have to fight smart and work his way in.

          Which he won't struggle with considering his good footwork and defensive ability, however the barrier is there, this will be more taxing on one fighter over the other which would be Tank.

          Defense: Ryan B/ Tank B>A+:

          I would say that Gervonta Davis's defense ramps up as the fight continues which becomes more affective at the later stages of the fight as his opposition tire out and are more prone to making mistakes. Once it goes beyond the sixth round it becomes superb.

          In the other hand Ryan Garcia's defense while not the best, is actually there despite being subtle, optimized to fight overall shorter fighters by timing the distance and using the pull counter, he also sometimes ducks down or pulls up when his opponents are too close to comfort.

          Funnily enough though this move was utilized frequently by Floyd Mayweather against many opponents whether they were shorter or taller, yet it seems Tank doesn't recognize it when he stated Ryan has no skill.

          Accuracy: Ryan A+/ Tank B>A+:

          Ryan's precision is actually one of his strongest point's that Gervonta will struggle with, an example would the fight between Fury/Wilder, where despite that the former's defense is quite good, it is difficult to predict at what time and angle will the shot arrive when it comes to powerful athletic fighters timing their shots. Similarly to how Romero managed to land any punches, except Garcia's will be calculated.

          Power: Ryan A+/ Tank B>A+:

          Both have one punch knockout power; Tank delivers thudding shots already at the start of fight to wear down and tax his opponents but doesn't go for the finish until he is 100% sure that he can deliver the execution depending on how skilled or tired is his opposition.

          Ryan Garcia applies pressure on his opponent so he can control the pace and capitalize on their mistakes. Technically he switches from being the aggressor to the counterpuncher. Which can be both a strength and a weakness for this fight.

          Ring IQ: Ryan B/ Tank A+:

          Gervonta Davis is the veteran here and has the advantage in terms of experience against a wide variety of styles in pressure fighters (Santa Cruz/ Isaac Cruz/ Romero/Barrios) and (Jose Pedraza/Hector Garcia/Shot Gamboa). But to be fair though, if you apply context.

          -Leo Santa Cruz and Hector Garcia belonged at (126/130) struggling to hurt opposition at the lower weight classes.
          -Isaac Cruz had no experience at the elite level having to replace Rolly Romero in a three week notice.
          -Jose Pedraza was undefeated but never really beaten anyone of note until his loss, only winning against a shot Raymundo Beltran
          -Mario Barrios never really fought at the elite level until Tank and Thurman, having to really struggle for a decision win against Batyr Akhmedov.
          -Rolando Romero while athletically gifted, never had much skill inside the ring. Having no gameplan nor thought behind his punches.
          -Yoerkis Gamboa after his defeat to Crawford he became highly unactive as he lost to a journeyman in Robinson Castellanos, had a very controversial win against Jason Sosa who was knocked out in the fourth round by Berchelt, and had retired two shot fighters. Then he fought Tank.

          Ryan Garcia doesn't have much of a record either, but at least he had faced three southpaws in row, meaning he will know how to handle Tank's stance.

          Footwork: Ryan B/ Tank A+:

          Gervonta has the clear edge here, being able to use the strategy of hit and run, avoid more loaded shots and also has better odds of recovering if he gets caught unlike vice versa.

          Ryan is rather Stationary and linear with his footwork and doesn't use angles so he can retreat successfully. He only shifts when he has to apply pressure. His speed and power make up for it as his opponent will be careful in closing on.

          Stamina: Ryan A/ Tank B:

          Ryan Garcia had mostly focused on body conditioning in Reynoso's camp and had demonstrated a good gas tank through all his fights, as he didn't demonstrate any improvements or modifications when it comes to skillset.

          Eddy was more invested in Canelo Alvarez over his other fighters who left his camp. Gervonta Davis despite that he thrives on the later rounds, does tend to get taxed as he overuses his footwork and gets worn down by being tagged quite often.

          Prediction:

          My prediction would be that Ryan to capitalize and bank on the initial rounds, even if he doesn't get the finish, so he can dish out a significant amount of damage to wear down Davis so he can't ramp up and overwhelm him on the later rounds so can win by UD or TKO.

          That however will be a difficult task on itself considering Tank's footwork is vastly superior, can counter with a finishing shot and has superb defensive skills. Ryan has to utilize body work to immobilize him despite that not many fighters have really attempted to do so.

          Ryan will have to bring a good and executable gameplan to win the fight unlike Davis who develops as the fights comes along, he has both the athleticism of Romero that Davis struggled with along with a decent skill similar to Barrios. So, I say that he has 50/50 shot.
          Well put together.

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