How would a prime Tyson have done in the 70s heavy weight division.

[Roadblock]

In every fight Tyson lost he was never at his best. From buster Douglas to the lennox Lewis fight. So losing to them might not necessarily be a barrier to beating Ali or Foreman. People who fought and lost to Tyson and lennox have said Tyson was the best, so that might be more accurate way to assess tyson.

So I think Tyson could best foreman and Ali at his best but over a 10 year career he'd lose any rematches or triologies if those rematch occur outside that 3 or 4 year window for Tyson when he was unbeatable

During this unbeatable time period who did Mike beat comparable to Ali Foreman, funny how when the comp gets to real elite fighters he lost, you are only as good as those who you beat, his competition was average contenders that were intimidated, Ali would frustrate him so badly Mike would try and bite his arm off, jab jab right counters grab hold, Mike is a meal for prime Ali.

[hugh grant]

During this unbeatable time period who did Mike beat comparable to Ali Foreman, funny how when the comp gets to real elite fighters he lost, you are only as good as those who you beat, his competition was average contenders that were intimidated, Ali would frustrate him so badly Mike would try and bite his arm off, jab jab right counters grab hold, Mike is a meal for prime Ali.

You aren't wrong. Tyson not beat anyone as good as Ali, and to say he could beat Foreman or Ali, when we think Tyson was at his best and in prime might be overating tyson. I understand that. But it's only opinions at end of day, we got no answers. Some will say foreman not best anyone as good as Tyson at his best

[PeasantCrusha]

oh yeah? he's that bad huh? even a prime big george would fall huh?

I think so... If anything and OLD 250lb Foreman has more of a chin/chance against a prime Tyson.


Mike would have been too fast for Foreman.


I know it's cool to pretend a prime Mike Tyson was overrated on these forums but...

[The Viper]

Simply put thats pure opinion, if a former LHW can stop him and a guy like Buster can totally out box him and stop him, I find it hard to believe he could handle super tough iron chinned slick boxers like Ali or HW monsters like Foreman, Tyson lost to the best of his era that's not a good recommendation to dominate any era.

Buster did not fight a prime tyson....lets be real come on now...

[Roadblock]

Buster did not fight a prime tyson....lets be real come on now...

Come now I said a lot more than just Buster beat him, you got to look at the whole equation not pick and choose bits, Ali was the master of pot shot grab and hold, and he has superb stamina and a granite chin, people underestimate how tough Ali was, and Ali would have had Mike blowing flames out of his nose before the bell sounded he was the master of getting in their heads. Mike never showed me he could dog out a fight, he was a bully with a short fuse as soon as guy showed him no fear Mike crumbled as rounds went on, in my mind, Ali had everything to put Mike in his place.

[The Viper]

Come now I said a lot more than just Buster beat him, you got to look at the whole equation not pick and choose bits, Ali was the master of pot shot grab and hold, and he has superb stamina and a granite chin, people underestimate how tough Ali was, and Ali would have had Mike blowing flames out of his nose before the bell sounded he was the master of getting in their heads. Mike never showed me he could dog out a fight, he was a bully with a short fuse as soon as guy showed him no fear Mike crumbled as rounds went on, in my mind, Ali had everything to put Mike in his place.

yeah but a prime ali wasnt in the 70s....ali was past it man....

[Roadblock]

yeah but a prime ali wasnt in the 70s....ali was past it man....

True but real early 70s he was still a great fighter and good enough because of all his attributes to beat a small guy like Mike, as I said I don't think Mike has that real dog in him, even compared to Frazier who was a non-stop pit dog, Mike is different more power than Joe less stamina and less heart, Ali was so durable behind his ability and ring smarts, he would tie Mike in knots and pepper him to death at range, Ali had 3 phases the real early Ali had amazing speed and movement for a HW it was only later when he slowed down that he showed how tough he was, I remember them calling Cassius Clay a chicken and runner he was neither, he was a fleet-footed boxer with a massive heart, it was very sad to see him end the way he did.

[The Viper]

True but real early 70s he was still a great fighter and good enough because of all his attributes to beat a small guy like Mike, as I said I don't think Mike has that real dog in him, even compared to Frazier who was a non-stop pit dog, Mike is different more power than Joe less stamina and less heart, Ali was so durable behind his ability and ring smarts, he would tie Mike in knots and pepper him to death at range, Ali had 3 phases the real early Ali had amazing speed and movement for a HW it was only later when he slowed down that he showed how tough he was, I remember them calling Cassius Clay a chicken and runner he was neither, he was a fleet-footed boxer with a massive heart, it was very sad to see him end the way he did.

i just dont think a past it ali beats a peak tyson.....but to each its own...

[elfag]

fraizer was like 210 pounds. i have a hard time seeing prime tyson loose to a smaller man, i just dont see it

[Roadblock]

fraizer was like 210 pounds. i have a hard time seeing prime tyson loose to a smaller man, i just dont see it

I didn't say Frazier could beat him I said Frazier had a lot more dog in him, he didn't have Mikes power but a lot more work rate but Mike would catch him as Joe would be right in his face.