How would a prime Tyson have done in the 70s heavy weight division.

[The Viper]

Tyson was the epitome of the fast starter, and as such, I believe he was very much capable of upending Frazier very very very early. Quicker, faster, he hit harder with astute combinations and with a vastly underrated slippery defense, to say nothing of a 10lb functional weight advantage, Tyson's early barrage would trump any needed warm-up the slower Frazier required. Sorry Joe.

great point

[The Viper]

Totally invalid comment with a logical why its wrong.

simply put, tyson is way too talented and gifted to be nothing less than the top guy of that era.......

[QueensburyRules]

A matter of opinion. No doubt Ali slept for a month thereafter. In my opinion, if we allowed George an additional two seconds, Ali would have shoe shined him into a crumple

- - Ali had until 1977 to rematch George, so it's recorded history Ali who feasted on rematches and trilogies never wanted to see George in the ring again.

It ain't opinion, so don't make me start beating up on poor Ali who was never the same fighter.

[The Viper]

- - Ali had until 1977 to rematch George, so it's recorded history Ali who feasted on rematches and trilogies never wanted to see George in the ring again.

It ain't opinion, so don't make me start beating up on poor Ali who was never the same fighter.

Ali ducked no one....

[hugh grant]

In h2h he could do well, but he might not last long his good spell. He punched fast and hard and was hard to hit in his short prime, so could do damage, before you knew it you was on floor

[QueensburyRules]

Ali ducked no one....

- - Somehow IQ ducked U...

[Hooded Terror]

- - Ali had until 1977 to rematch George, so it's recorded history Ali who feasted on rematches and trilogies never wanted to see George in the ring again.

It ain't opinion, so don't make me start beating up on poor Ali who was never the same fighter.

IMO, the moment had passed Ali for facing George when he left the ring that night in Zaire. George had to be rebuilt. Meanwhile, Ali embarked on a run that in took a decided toll on him but at the time was a sort of well earned gravy train. To his benefit, George skidded some more then went into a decade-long detour. By the time Ali bull****ted his way past Shavers, he was but a mere fraction of what he had been, running more on fumes and bluster than on any true momentum. I consider the Spinks match as almost being a plot device more than any great mountain that had to be climbed. Could Spinks have beaten anybody in the top ten other than Ali that night in Feb 1978? Ali gave us a terrific 3rd heavyweight championship comeback win that September, but the smoke, mirrors and dazzling lights (plus Cosell) were badly needed at that point.

Ali's feat of defeating George was a one-off. 1967 was more than a mere seven years in the past where Ali was concerned.

[Roadblock]

simply put, tyson is way too talented and gifted to be nothing less than the top guy of that era.......

Simply put thats pure opinion, if a former LHW can stop him and a guy like Buster can totally out box him and stop him, I find it hard to believe he could handle super tough iron chinned slick boxers like Ali or HW monsters like Foreman, Tyson lost to the best of his era that's not a good recommendation to dominate any era.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Prime Mike Tyson, the champion of fantasy fights, lost by a KO to Douglas.

[hugh grant]

In every fight Tyson lost he was never at his best. From buster Douglas to the lennox Lewis fight. So losing to them might not necessarily be a barrier to beating Ali or Foreman. People who fought and lost to Tyson and lennox have said Tyson was the best, so that might be more accurate way to assess tyson.

So I think Tyson could best foreman and Ali at his best but over a 10 year career he'd lose any rematches or triologies if those rematch occur outside that 3 or 4 year window for Tyson when he was unbeatable