Comments Thread For: Frank Warren on Fury-Usyk Talks: We're Still None the Wiser; Can't Force People to Fight

[juggernaut666]

These penniless mugs on here simply don't understand there's millions of pounds to negotiate here before signing and if it is Tyson holding out then good for him .Prize fighting it's called ....not 'little prize' fighting !

Millions of what ? He walked away from the Saudi fight for a lesser amount in the U.K .

But it’s called prize fighting right ? Your included in those people who don’t understand so include yourself all he’s doing is trying to void an existing contract he made his team rearrange to new ones now holding up the fight ,nothing to do with making more money otherwise he takes the Saudi deal . Lol

[BodyBagz]

It's a shame the sport has no control over the sport

''Can't force someone to fight.''

Take away belt(s)

[juggernaut666]

Another muscles fanboy in the forum.
You just have to talk about Kanye in every conversation??
Your like a crying baby.

Kanye sent back the contract demanding commercial control & A-side status having lost 3 in 5, it's well documented because of his sponsor's. Funny how Del boy signed with even less time. Those are facts.

On this occasion though Money has gone to the sasquatch's head & he's bluffed his way out of the Saudi offer, lost Usyks his Saudi money then demanded a bigger cut of the Wembly deal because he'll i bet earn far less than the Saudis original offer.

See I'm a now former Fury fan now he's turned into a money first I'm the A-side princess which blights modern boxing, but i don't have to make it about Kanye.

Fury wanted 60% to fight A.J before any come back fight years ago so seems to me your the clown who took forever to realize Furys about money first .

[NoConcoms]

I think Fury has turned alot of fan's away blocking the Usyk fight with money.
I'm one of them.

I'm now firmly team Usyk.

Yep. Fury can say this is about money all he wants, but anyone with an ounce of intelligence can see he doesn't want the fight. If it's such an easy fight, like he says, why not take a 50/50 split and make a ton of money for an easy night's work?

I'll tell u why; Because Usyk is a nightmare for him from a styles perspective.

[ShoulderRoll]

Fury had a huge crowd to see him fight Dillian Shyte of all people. And an Usyk fight would take place in England.

Its a no brainer that he is the A-side here and deserves more of the purse.

Usyk is a good fighter but on his own he doesn’t draw.

[NoConcoms]

Fury had a huge crowd to see him fight Dillian Shyte of all people. And an Usyk fight would take place in England.

Its a no brainer that he is the A-side here and deserves more of the purse.

Usyk is a good fighter but on his own he doesn’t draw.

Fair enough. I would never dispute any of this. But at some point.........isn't it about more than money?

[super-x]

The furys are all about the money, greed through the fight out of saudi as Furys demand was so ridiculous the saudis sent them packing back to the uk. Warren seems fed up with this all getting nowhere. Furys are definitely greed driven, old jon fury has been trying to hustle J.paul out of his pay day claiming they shook hands on the winner takes all deal... yet blatently avoided signing the contract . Jokes

[Lxg]

Usyk offered Fury, 60% to the winner, 40% to the loser. Fury turned it down. That shows Fury is frightened and his boasts are just a bag of meaningless gas. Fury’s title should be stripped and Usyk and another combatant should fight for the undisputed heavyweight championship. If Fury doesn’t fight, he no longer can be a champion. Just retire and pretend you were the toughest boxer.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Joshua fought Usyk twice and once in the UK. So using the UK as a excuse is not really acceptable 'I am surprised some UK boxing fans, the people who attend many big UK fights are not offended this stance'.

The fight is still in all honesty going to be the biggest current fight in boxing, whether is stage in the UK, America or pretty much anywhere in Europe.

Tyson Fury's hardcore fans need to stop betraying themselves regarding this situation. I have stated of late, that on a weekly basis to be a hardcore Tyson Fury fan you have to betray yourself 'Due to the sociopolitical games and just games in general that Tyson Fury plays'. His hardcore fans have to consistently keep alternating their own principles, and behaviors in order to endorse and realign with their boy Fury.

The hardcore Tyson Fury fans with the most conscience, check how they are acting 'They are getting more polite, and some of them are reserved' Because they know that they have been betraying themselves 'Exactly the same thing happened during the Joshua vs Fury negotiations'. When people don't want to admit it, but they know deep down that the negotiations were completely unprofessional 'With all the ultimatums'.

I am not trying to insult people personally, yes this is boxing a sport 'But if you are a man and you associate and endorse somebodies conduct which is a bit off, it is going to effect you'.

Tyson Fury is not a bad guy, and he is a great fighter. But as a Champion, I do not rate him very highly 'It is extremely difficult for his main competition to fight him, unnecessarily difficult and unprofessional'.

This fight was there to be made, and it was going to be a big fight 'One of the biggest fights that have been staged over the past decade'. Using the excuse of staging the fight in the UK, for the reason that this fight is not going to happen 'Is not a acceptable or good enough reason'.

Me personally I thought well? If the Fury vs Usyk fight does not happen. At-least we know when Tyson Fury is going to fight next 'But I watched a interview the other day with Frank Warren and that also now is not for definite'.

Note: I am not here trying to discredit Tyson Fury, on merit he is the ranked number 1 Heavyweight in the world 'Because he has the two best wins in the division'. But one of those wins was over 7 coming up to 8 years ago 'If the man wants to talk like he is all-time great, then he has to fight his best competition 'That is the situation'.

[deathofaclown]

It's a shame the sport has no control over the sport

''Can't force someone to fight.''

Take away belt(s)

Yeah

Never gonna happen though, you’re only obliged to face your mandatory.

does any other sport work like boxing? just really fragmented and essentially a load of independent businesses trying to do deals with each other.

I’m sure we would all just prefer one belt per division, but how is that ever going to happen because it would basically be asking three or more businesses to stop operating.

Obviously mixed martial arts has a lot of different companies, but you become contracted to a company when you want to fight there and there’s only one belt. In my opinion, that’s a much better format than boxing because you know if you want the most money, you pretty much have to go to the UFC and if you want to be the biggest earner, you’re gonna have to win titles and there’s only one.

Boxing is a mess and unfixable at this point. Still, you can only really blame the fighters because if they want to fight. they will…but the issue is it’s not really necessary that they fight who the public want them to fight because they still get to keep hold of belts and people will still watch them fight. So they don’t bother.

we’ve seen it with Spence and Crawford, now Fury v Usyk.

It’s a good job some really good fights come along now and again, otherwise I think I’d lose a lot of interest in my favourite sport. We spend more time talking about business and fights not happening than the actual entertainment and fighting.