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  • #11
    Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post
    Garcia might not regret it, but he didn't have to say anything, unless it was something to encourage Joshua for the future. Any constructive criticism could have come in training camp for his next fight, instead he's going to miss on that Joshua bread because he couldn't help running his mouth to the press. He's the elder and trainer, how can he train and mentor his fighter to do the correct things, if the trainer doesn't think before he acts or speaks? Also, as an adult, he really had the gall to used the juvenile excuse of, "Everyone else was saying it, too." C'mon Garcia, be better.
    Garcia doesn't need AJ though, he has built several champions on his own and will continue to do so with or without AJ. I actually think him losing that AJ money is a blessing, because he has a lot of young fighters that need his attention more and if he got too complacent with AJ he probably wouldn't be giving those fighters the same attention.

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    • #12
      I don't think Garcia said too much given the spotlight around Joshua but it seems obvious that was too much!

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      • #13
        Originally posted by juanpablo View Post

        But he could've kept those comments between him and AJ
        They no longer work together. NDA no longer exists.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Kannabis Kid View Post
          Garcia doesn't need AJ though, he has built several champions on his own and will continue to do so with or without AJ. I actually think him losing that AJ money is a blessing, because he has a lot of young fighters that need his attention more and if he got too complacent with AJ he probably wouldn't be giving those fighters the same attention.
          1 HW champion > 10 flyweight champions if money and reputation factor into the equation.
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          • #15
            Originally posted by Kannabis Kid View Post
            Garcia doesn't need AJ though, he has built several champions on his own and will continue to do so with or without AJ. I actually think him losing that AJ money is a blessing, because he has a lot of young fighters that need his attention more and if he got too complacent with AJ he probably wouldn't be giving those fighters the same attention.
            I understand your point, and I'm not saying that Garcia needs Joshua, but that if he wanted to continue to train him, then that's not how to go about it, and in AJ not retaining Garcia's services, then that big amount of Joshua bread is the benefit lost, especially seeing as there are only a handful of fighters that come close to generating the type of money as AJ. But more power to Robert if this has freed him up for his young stable.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by thack View Post
              I don't think Garcia said too much given the spotlight around Joshua but it seems obvious that was too much!
              I don't think it's a good look for Garcia.

              He trained Joshua well, I thought, and Joshua looked in good shape and fought a pretty good fight against Usyk. Usyk outperformed him. What Usyk did in the 10th coming back so strongly after being battered in the 9th was outstanding in my opinion. Garcia's take is that it reflected poorly on Joshua. That's OK, it's his opinion, it's not a fact, but there's nothing wrong with telling it the way you see it.

              Where it doesn't look good for him is in the manner of how he's told it like he sees it. First (as others have said) he could have kept this between him and his fighter. Second, if he really felt the burning need to go tell the press about this opinion, he could have done it the English-speaking press. Doing it in a Spanish interview makes it look like he's doing it behind his English-speaking fighter's back to a degree. Third, he then disputed the translation of the Spanish interview. This makes him look like a weasel. Fourth, he now flip-flops when pressed on it and says everyone else was saying the same thing. Now he doesn't have the strength of his own conviction or standing by his own professional opinion, he's trying to hide behind the supposed consensus opinion of the masses. This makes him look like even more of a weasel, as we know he hasn't actually taken some kind of opinion poll, nor should the public opinion play any part when he is the professional trainer with a direct relationship with the fighter.

              He basically decided to hang his charge out to dry when he knew he wasn't getting the gig on an ongoing basis, trying to cover his own back.

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              • #17
                Then instead of coddling him like everyone else,why didn't you light a fire under his ass and tell him he needed to throw the kitchen sink in there if he wanted to come out the victor?? Instead as i recall,you told him he was "doing great"after every round,essentially doing the same coddling you accuse everyone else of doing..?!?!

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View Post

                  1 HW champion > 10 flyweight champions if money and reputation factor into the equation.
                  Maybe if you aren't a hardcore boxing fan, but Joshua was already a champion before he went to Garcia and will fade away sooner rather than later meanwhile Robert will continue to breed champions. We don't have to compare their bank accounts either this is boxing not Forbes. Joshua fights once or twice a year if that, meanwhile Roberts stable is fighting almost every week, you tell me what's better for boxing if you factor that into your equation.

                  I saw the interviews where Robert was discussing this, he didn't seem too bothered to not be working with Joshua anymore, not everything is about money he even said he had other fighters who had important fights and he wouldn't go to the UK again to just focus on Joshua anyways.

                  Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

                  I understand your point, and I'm not saying that Garcia needs Joshua, but that if he wanted to continue to train him, then that's not how to go about it, and in AJ not retaining Garcia's services, then that big amount of Joshua bread is the benefit lost, especially seeing as there are only a handful of fighters that come close to generating the type of money as AJ. But more power to Robert if this has freed him up for his young stable.
                  Yeah financially it's a loss but Robert isn't a flashy guy and he seems smart with his money, the money will continue to grow along with his reputation so it might not be as big of a chunk as he would've got with Joshua but he's not going to be hurting because of it.


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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Kannabis Kid View Post
                    Maybe if you aren't a hardcore boxing fan, but Joshua was already a champion before he went to Garcia and will fade away sooner rather than later meanwhile Robert will continue to breed champions. We don't have to compare their bank accounts either this is boxing not Forbes. Joshua fights once or twice a year if that, meanwhile Roberts stable is fighting almost every week, you tell me what's better for boxing if you factor that into your equation.

                    I saw the interviews where Robert was discussing this, he didn't seem too bothered to not be working with Joshua anymore, not everything is about money he even said he had other fighters who had important fights and he wouldn't go to the UK again to just focus on Joshua anyways.

                    Yeah financially it's a loss but Robert isn't a flashy guy and he seems smart with his money, the money will continue to grow along with his reputation so it might not be as big of a chunk as he would've got with Joshua but he's not going to be hurting because of it.

                    I'm a fairly hardcore fan; TOAA, in fact. With regard to my comment, I very specifically qualified it by saying "...if money and reputation factor into the equation." If you completely disregard money and fame, then, yes, I suppose having a bunch of flyweight champions is as good or better than having a HW champion of the world. Most trainers would prefer to say they trained the HW champion of the world.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View Post

                      I'm a fairly hardcore fan; TOAA, in fact. With regard to my comment, I very specifically qualified it by saying "...if money and reputation factor into the equation." If you completely disregard money and fame, then, yes, I suppose having a bunch of flyweight champions is as good or better than having a HW champion of the world. Most trainers would prefer to say they trained the HW champion of the world.
                      That's why I stated that money isn't the motive. It shows more from a trainer to be able to train fighters across multiple weight classes considering most Heavyweights have a big punch while some of the smaller fighters don't have that luxury and have to rely on pure skills to win.

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