Safe to say we’re not getting Fury v Usyk next?

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  • deathofaclown
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    Safe to say we’re not getting Fury v Usyk next?

    Fury is meant to be fighting April 29th regardless, Wembley is booked

    what’s that, 8 weeks away? You would think this fight would be confirmed before 8 weeks out. Although I guess you can say that about any fight on a decent scale. And this will sell out instantly, so that’s not an issue really.

    everything seems to have gone very quiet. That usually means that it’s done and they’re gonna announce, or it means it’s basically dead in the water. Hopefully the former.

    I dunno, I was positive at one point a few months ago but now we’re in March and nothing. Although I guess it could be pushed back a few weeks to May, maybe April 29th is not set in stone

    I really hope the silence is a good sign, which is sometimes is. But even then you usually get a few leaked reports here and there but there’s basically been nothing.

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    Yeah I agree. I never thought the UK would be able to fulfil the required financial demands tbh.

    This falls on Fury more than Usyk IMO, it was widely reported Usyk had agreed his side of the deal with the Saudi’s, but for whatever reason Fury couldn’t agree his end of the deal. Once the site got relocated from Saudi to the UK it always felt like an uphill battle.

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      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
      Yeah I agree. I never thought the UK would be able to fulfil the required financial demands tbh.

      This falls on Fury more than Usyk IMO, it was widely reported Usyk had agreed his side of the deal with the Saudi’s, but for whatever reason Fury couldn’t agree his end of the deal. Once the site got relocated from Saudi to the UK it always felt like an uphill battle.
      It’ll be interesting to see how a Wembley fight does next if it’s not Usyk

      We know Fury sells a lot of tickets, he sold out that stadium v Whyte, but it’s a different story this time because anybody going to an underwhelming opponent outside of Usyk.

      At least the Whyte fight was justified because he was mandatory, AJ and Usyk were tied up with each other, he had just whooped Wilder. So Whyte was about as decent an opponent that was available. There’s really nobody he can fight next where boxing fans will be happy with other than Usyk.

      but I guess he has a huge following in the casual market now and he can shift a lot of tickets even fighting Andy Ruiz or someone, people will just go for the event and night out.

      But that’s the issue isn’t it, Pay Ruiz 20% or Usyk 50% when you can sell a lot of tickets against either. There’s limited money in the UK, so even if Usyk is much bigger fight, Fury can still probably make more taking 80% against another fighter. That’s why the fight seems unlikely in the UK unless Usyk takes a lesser split.

      Hopefully we get surprised and it gets announced but it’s starting to seem less unlikely over time.

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        I think they had a strong plan B before even the negotiations started.

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          #5
          Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
          I think they had a strong plan B before even the negotiations started.
          Who? Ruiz?

          AJ is tied up, Wilder isn’t going to be it, Joyce is tied up

          I can’t really think of any other names that it could be apart from Andy Ruiz. I can’t see a crossover with Francis Ngannou at two months notice, plus they might be looking at Saudi for that kind of fight too.

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            #6
            Originally posted by deathofaclown

            It’ll be interesting to see how a Wembley fight does next if it’s not Usyk

            We know Fury sells a lot of tickets, he sold out that stadium v Whyte, but it’s a different story this time because anybody going to an underwhelming opponent outside of Usyk.

            At least the Whyte fight was justified because he was mandatory, AJ and Usyk were tied up with each other, he had just whooped Wilder. So Whyte was about as decent an opponent that was available. There’s really nobody he can fight next where boxing fans will be happy with other than Usyk.

            but I guess he has a huge following in the casual market now and he can shift a lot of tickets even fighting Andy Ruiz or someone, people will just go for the event and night out.

            But that’s the issue isn’t it, Pay Ruiz 20% or Usyk 50% when you can sell a lot of tickets against either. There’s limited money in the UK, so even if Usyk is much bigger fight, Fury can still probably make more taking 80% against another fighter. That’s why the fight seems unlikely in the UK unless Usyk takes a lesser split.

            Hopefully we get surprised and it gets announced but it’s starting to seem less unlikely over time.
            I think the problem with making the Usyk fight in the UK is you probably aren’t going to be able to recoup what you spend. As you pointed out you can’t pay Usyk the 20% you paid Whyte, you have to pay him similar to what you’re paying Fury.

            I don’t know the figures obviously but let’s just hypothetically say Fury-Usyk split £50m between them. How are you going to recoup that? You’d need over 1.5m PPV buys.

            People might think that’s possible because of the Usyk-AJ numbers but that was on Sky. Sky have 13 million customers in the UK. This is on BT, BT only have 2 million. That means you essentially need over 75% of your consumers to buy this fight in order to make money. It’s just not plausible IMO.
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              #7
              If Fury ducks Usyk to fight AJ's leftovers then I'm done with the guy.

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                #8
                Originally posted by deathofaclown

                Who? Ruiz?

                AJ is tied up, Wilder isn’t going to be it, Joyce is tied up

                I can’t really think of any other names that it could be apart from Andy Ruiz. I can’t see a crossover with Francis Ngannou at two months notice, plus they might be looking at Saudi for that kind of fight too.
                Looking at the last two opponents they will dig up some undefeated foe no one has heard before.

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                  #9
                  It's done. Already Warren said a week ago "it's almost done".

                  Also, my some British pals informed me who work in boxing media.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by deathofaclown

                    Who? Ruiz?

                    AJ is tied up, Wilder isn’t going to be it, Joyce is tied up

                    I can’t really think of any other names that it could be apart from Andy Ruiz. I can’t see a crossover with Francis Ngannou at two months notice, plus they might be looking at Saudi for that kind of fight too.
                    You know who ,and if he doesn’t fight Usyk no damage control thread like this one in the event it falls through is going to save Fury this time ,he’s done in terms of convincing ****** people it’s everyone else’s fault all the time .

                    Joshua was not tied up he was giving fake deadlines and Usyk agreed to fight him late February because he knew this could happen and tried stopping Fury from running away . We all saw Fury attempts to sabotage another fight right here ,he purposely moved the fight from Saudi knowing he was going to demand more in the U.K .

                    Your the second infatuated Fury fan on here ,when fighters are available you still put blame on them when they send offers or try and corner Fury into a fight you then say everyone is tied up after the fact as though that’s why the fights haven’t happened yet .

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