What does it say about Matias that he makes fighter after fighter quit?

[Regge]

Because one had two gold medals before turning pro?

Yet Robeisy Ramirez who also has 2 gold medals never got that type of hype.

Why do you think...not really asking we already know why.

[SilverMiles]

Yet Robeisy Ramirez who also has 2 gold medals never got that type of hype.

Why do you think...not really asking we already know why.

Lomachenko did something very special when he went pro while Robeisy has taken the normal prospect route so I don't see a comparison between the two. Plus Robeisy lost his pro debut against a really low-level opponent so I'm not surprised many pumped the brakes on him.

[Regge]

Lomachenko did something very special when he went pro while Robeisy has taken the normal prospect route so I don't see a comparison between the two. Plus Robeisy lost his pro debut against a really low-level opponent so I'm not surprised many pumped the brakes on him.

We're talking pre pro hype.

What did Loma do that was so special in his debut? Nothing at all then he tried for a title against a vet in salido it backfired and got his ass whooped...yet the media still hyped him. Again we all know why.

[SilverMiles]

We're talking pre pro hype.

What did Loma do that was so special in his debut? Nothing at all then he tried for a title against a vet in salido it backfired and got his ass whooped...yet the media still hyped him. Again we all know why.

Please don't do the whole overexaggerating thing saying Lomachenko got whooped by Salido. It was a close fight that didn't go his way; it happens.

Anyway, Loma fought a ranked contender coming off a good win. Ramirez wasn't a world-beater, but he had just upset Rey Bautista and was WBC ranked contender. Robisey fought a guy who had only one win over an opponent with a winning record (2-1) and a loss.

Loma came into the game as a contender, and Robisey came in as a blue-chip prospect. Robisey's pre-pro got hype, but there will only be so much hype for a prospect fighting prospect-level fights. But let's not act like Robisey is treated like Marvin Hagler when he turned pro.

[just the facts]

I think we all know why.

Because he wasn’t a 2x Olympic Gold medal winner?

[Regge]

Because he wasn’t a 2x Olympic Gold medal winner?

Look at my post above.

So was Robeisy Ramirez and he didn't get half the hype Loma did..

[Regge]

Please don't do the whole overexaggerating thing saying Lomachenko got whooped by Salido. It was a close fight that didn't go his way; it happens.

Anyway, Loma fought a ranked contender coming off a good win. Ramirez wasn't a world-beater, but he had just upset Rey Bautista and was WBC ranked contender. Robisey fought a guy who had only one win over an opponent with a winning record (2-1) and a loss.

Loma came into the game as a contender, and Robisey came in as a blue-chip prospect. Robisey's pre-pro got hype, but there will only be so much hype for a prospect fighting prospect-level fights. But let's not act like Robisey is treated like Marvin Hagler when he turned pro.

Yea think we'll agree to disagree.

[PRvazquez]

Back on topic. We are seeing a force in Matias . Let's enjoy the show . He beats them all at 140. In satisfactory ways.

[Regge]

Back on topic. We are seeing a force in Matias . Let's enjoy the show . He beats them all at 140. In satisfactory ways.

I agree completely.

Matias mixture of ridiculous workrate, power, chin and hunger is a tough combination to beat.

[BoxingParadigm]

Matias is a bad man in the ring and I expect to see him in great fights, but I don't think he beats everyone at 140lbs. We'll see how it plays out.