Does Uysk really deserve a 50/50 split in Fury fight

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  • dan_cov
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    #41
    This is what is killing boxing or has killed it should I say.

    I'm a fighting man, its not about money then suddenly it is. Just admit you don't fancy the fight and would rather another pointless rematch with your bff Delboy.
    Last edited by dan_cov; 02-25-2023, 09:34 AM.

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    • BodyBagz
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      #42
      Originally posted by denium
      From a business perspective, absolutely not. Usyk should take 40%, it's still more than he'll earn against anyone else.
      Fury planning on pricing himself out.....

      Fury vs Whyte 2

      Double the buffoonery

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      • deathofaclown
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        #43
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
        Yes he does. Actually he deserves 60%. he is coming form a much better win and he made more money in the last fight.

        Fury is WBC title holder coming from the third Chisora fight.
        Could Usyk sell out the biggest attended boxing event in European history v Dillian Whyte? No. I went online for tickets for that Fury v Whyte fight and was about number 220,000 in the queue, so was no chance of getting them. That fight could’ve sold out the stadium 5 times over. Usyk wouldn’t fill half of it, probably not a quarter.

        Could Usyk sell 60,000 Tottenham stadium v Chisora? No

        Like it or not, Usyk doesn’t bring anywhere near the eyes that Fury does

        The only reason Usyk has made good money in his last 2 fights is because of the man in the opposite corner, let’s have it right. The only way Usyk makes 8 figures anytime soon is if Tyson Fury is in the opposite corner. Otherwise he’ll be fighting someone like Hrgovic in a small indoor arena for a couple of million.

        That’s just the reality. Usyk is a great fighter, one of my favourites to watch but he doesn’t generate huge money unless there’s someone opposite him bringing most of the viewers
        Last edited by deathofaclown; 02-25-2023, 08:01 AM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by BodyBagz

          Singular.....
          Britney Spears is popular, too.

          Usyk has the more respected resume.
          Keep playing the 9 yo. Eventually, Ukrainian draft dodger will have to accept 60/40.

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          • JakeTheBoxer
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            #45
            Originally posted by deathofaclown

            Could Usyk sell out the biggest attended boxing event in European history v Dillian Whyte? No. I went online for tickets for that Fury v Whyte fight and was about number 220,000 in the queue, so was no chance of getting them. That fight could’ve sold out the stadium 5 times over. Usyk wouldn’t fill half of it, probably not a quarter.

            Could Usyk sell 60,000 Tottenham stadium v Chisora? No

            Like it or not, Usyk doesn’t bring anywhere near the eyes that Fury does

            The only reason Usyk has made good money in his last 2 fights is because of the man in the opposite corner, let’s have it right. The only way Usyk makes 8 figures anytime soon is if Tyson Fury is in the opposite corner. Otherwise he’ll be fighting someone like Hrgovic in a small indoor arena for a couple of million.

            That’s just the reality. Usyk is a great fighter, one of my favourites to watch but he doesn’t generate huge money unless there’s someone opposite him bringing most of the viewers
            Yes I know , there are many casuals that would watch Fury fighting Chisora 40 times.

            Listen, I don`t care about Fury fighting all Chisora`s in the world. Cherry picking game is over. Fury must fight and beat Usyk to prove something.

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            • deathofaclown
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              #46
              Originally posted by dan_cov
              Just give the man 50% and winner takes a bigger slice of the pie in the rematch.
              Winner takes 60% would be good but nobody seems to go for that deal

              The truth is Fury is the bigger commercial draw, I fully understand why his team feel they should get more. If I was in business and bringing the majority of the revenue, why would I give half of it away when it’s not justified? It’s not smart business. It’s just annoying for us fans that want to see the fight but it’s not our money.

              The other reality is Usyk can take 40% and still make a lot more money than he can elsewhere in the near future. And I think that’s what it’ll come down to. Fury can go make big money fighting AJ, Ngannou, even Joyce and keep the lions share for most of those fights. He doesn’t NEED Usyk for money.

              Fury, sold-out Wembley Stadium against Dillian Whyte, so he could do it against Joy Joyce or Ngannou, and probably take 80% of the purse. He knows it too, that’s why he doesn’t need to bend to 50/50.

              Usyk’s options to make this kind of money is much more limited. Are they stubborn enough not to accept 40% or so and go fight someone else, taking a bigger percentage that still amounts to much less than what they could’ve had? Who knows, depends on principles. But money usually talks.

              outside of Usyk’s team and their principles, if we’re just talking about financial stuff, then fury kind of has them over a barrel in a way, because they need him for this kind of money more than he needs them. So if they want this kind of money, they might have to just swallow their pride and accept a lesser split. I think that’s what will happen in the end.

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              • Apollo7
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                #47
                Fury is the bigger draw but Usyk is bringing more belts so 50/50 is fair. If you want those belts and to become undisputed you gotta pay up.
                Last edited by Apollo7; 02-25-2023, 12:21 PM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Apollo7
                  Fury is the bigger draw but Usyk is bringing more belts so 50/60 is fair. If you want those belts and to become undisputed you gotta pay up.
                  Belts don’t sell out stadiums. Give Usyk as many belts as he wants, he isn’t filling a third of Wembley stadium without a huge name opponent.

                  If Canelo fights Beterbiev, is Beterbiev deserving of getting 50/50 or a bigger split because he has more belts? You know he isn’t. Not when it comes to who drives revenue.

                  Usyk can have 100 belts, if he doesn’t fight a Fury or AJ level of fighter, those belts aren’t going to get him paid more than a few million.

                  It’s business, it costs a lot of money to invest in a fight and create an event in a stadium. They feel safe in that investment because they know they can recoup it because it’s been proven by a fighter who brings in big numbers (Fury), not because someone has a few alphabet titles.



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                  • Apollo7
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by deathofaclown

                    Belts don’t sell out stadiums. Give Usyk as many belts as he wants, he isn’t filling a third of Wembley stadium without a huge name opponent.

                    If Canelo fights Beterbiev, is Beterbiev deserving of getting 50/50 or a bigger split because he has more belts? You know he isn’t. Not when it comes to who drives revenue.

                    Usyk can have 100 belts, if he doesn’t fight a Fury or AJ level of fighter, those belts aren’t going to get him paid more than a few million.

                    It’s business, it costs a lot of money to invest in a fight and create an event in a stadium. They feel safe in that investment because they know they can recoup it because it’s been proven by a fighter who brings in big numbers (Fury), not because someone has a few alphabet titles.


                    Revenue doesn't win you belts. Fury can sell out all the stadiums in the world, it won't make him undisputed heavyweight world champion. If I'm putting my 3 belts on the line, I want 50% minimum.
                    Last edited by Apollo7; 02-25-2023, 10:08 AM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Apollo7

                      Revenue doesn't win you belts. Fury can sell out all the stadiums in the world, it won't make him undisputed heavyweight world champion. If I'm putting my 3 belts on the line, I want 50% minimum.
                      Fury already owns all those belts, he’s won them all before, he said he doesn’t need them all twice and not bothered about “undisputed” and that he will throw away the IBF straight away

                      so it depends how much Usyk is desperate for the final belt ..

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