I would say the same thing to your face. I go to bars to watch fights or live if I can. If you say dumb sht I expect any boxing fan to check you. Ypu claiming Canelo is Dog sht is just flat out WACKED. And you claiming Benvidez invented boxing and a KILLER based off what exactly??? Which fight of his made u put him on Boxing Mt. Rushmore???
							
						
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 I'm defending both of them. A 19-year-old, especially if they don't have an amateur foundation, can get hurt. Since that day, I haven't seen canelo hurt that way, he has a granite chin, and I don't recall benavidez getting hurt badly when gavril put him down, although the sample size for benavidez is not the same as canelo's.
 Wow! So you defend one 19 year old but attack anoher 19 year old?? Who STILL won by tko in not a very close fight unlike Benavidez....
 
 Like I said Francis We gonna see how real Benavidez is. So far he parties and treats boxing more like Chavez Jr. with a record close to Zurdo's. If he loses I expect you to jump on some other Boogeyman's nutz.Comment
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 I agree with that. And to be fair Benavidez was more of a slip. My only knock is I wish he would take boxing more seriously. Missing weight and doing coke a bad look.
 I'm defending both of them. A 19-year-old, especially if they don't have an amateur foundation, can get hurt. Since that day, I haven't seen canelo hurt that way, he has a granite chin, and I don't recall benavidez getting hurt badly when gavril put him down, although the sample size for benavidez is not the same as canelo's.Last edited by Shadoww702; 02-25-2023, 12:15 PM.Comment
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 Why are you calling Andrade "Doo Doo" and not a fan of his if he's supposedly an avoided fighter and represents the next level elite standard lol? Because you yourself know how ridiculous that sounds. Canelo tried to fight Andrade during the only window he was relevant to his career for undisputed but was shut down by the IBF. It was Andrade who rejected a mandatory shot after all his talk. Side note: The IBF hasn't ordered Spence to fight a mandatory in 5 years but they were somehow sticklers with Canelo and stripped him despite making a good faith effort to fight his mandatory Derevyachenko (who was rejecting huge money) and also shot down his request to unify, but you're talking about Canelo getting favorable treatment?
 I don't root for Doo Doo, but yeah, Cinnabon clearly avoided him for years. Charlo was his mandatory when the franchise belt was created for him, and yes, the holder of the franchise is allowed privileges when it comes to mandatory fights, unification fights, and fighting in other divisions and still maintaining champion status.
 
 And yes, he used the 155 catchweight to his benefit to be recognized as fighting at middleweight, but draining true middleweights that wanted the fight, and at the same time avoiding GGG during his prime because Golovkin was smart enough not to drain himself for the fight, but was getting aged in the process. There's a reason Clenelo fought at a catchweight 5 straight times, and it wasn't to be generous to others. Then he drops a pound to take a championship at 154 when he saw an easy work opponent in Liam Smith, now its built up as, look at Cinnabon chasing greatness in 2 divisions at the same time, GTFOH!!!
 
 PBC offered Cinnabon 100 million dollars to fight Charlo and Benavidez after he became a free agent, and of course, he turned it down and fought others on DAZN for less. But keep massaging the sack.
 
 And the funny part is Charlo himself shot down your claims by being the first to praise Canelo for moving up, saying he took the p4p path. https://www.boxingscene.com/jermall-...ff-him--143574 Haymon was never sending him to DAZN, never requested to have the fight ordered and reportedly rejected an offer. And again, it's ridiculous to complain about a franchise title that Canelo never made us of as he moved up to fight the bigger champs when the WBC has allowed Charlo to keep the full title without facing a mandatory in all these years or fighting period, but again you talk about Canelo getting favorable treatment?
 
 You're sounding like more of a casual by acting like it's scandalous for non-title fights to be a pound above the division limit when it's commonplace. Going into Canelo-Lara, Lara had fought above 154 about a dozen times compared to once for Canelo. The WBA and WBC were blocking fighters from fighting for their 154 belts for years by maintaining Floyd's status until his retirement despite not even fighting in the division, but again, you're complaining about Canelo?
 
 "but draining true middleweights" Which middleweight did he drain? He fought GGG at 160. It was hypocrite team GGG saying they'd fight anyone from 154-168 then turned around and publicly rejected fighting Lara because they didn't like his style and also rejected moving up 1 division to fight Ward, yet expected others to move up for him. Hypocrite team GGG later tried to save face by claiming they'd fight Ward but ONLY AT A CATCHWEIGHT despite saying they felt Ward would struggle making 168 by that point. So team GGG at their supposed most desperate preferred complacently fighting scrubs than risk facing a style they didn't like or move up one division. But you're trying to complain about Canelo who delivered and more on GGG's phony hype about 154-168 by becoming champ from 154-175 including moving up to beat hyped up favorite GGG at his own game in the rematch.
 
 The fact that you're trying to criticize Canelo for taking the biggest challenge of all by fighting Bivol shows how much haters have lost the plot. Imagine pretending inactive Charlo is the bigger threat when he's out here taking punishment from Montiel and getting outcountered by Korobov lol.
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 Yeah, and it was below the division limit for the benefit of Hatton. Canelo never challenged for a title at 147 but he was a ranked fighter there. He had actually initially intended to challenge for a welterweight title but had his two offers rejected therefore fought Hatton as a stay busy fight as he weighed his title options at 147 and 154. He was also the mandatory to the winner of Pac-Margarito at the time but Pac ended up vacating the belt immediately after therefore the WBC decided to put it in play for Canelo-Hatton (on the condition that the winner fights the next highest WBC challenger Ryder next). Canelo could have brought Hatton to the full 154 limit at that point but still met him several pounds below and agreed to Hatton's 160lb rehydration limit when he had no obligation. Meanwhile between the two, Hatton was the one with more experience fighting at higher weights and had fought as high as middleweight by that point.Last edited by Caxcan; 02-25-2023, 12:47 PM.Comment
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 Lmao exactly, its easy to be that accurate when your entire opposition is there to be hit, Plant will expose Bena real accuracy in exactly a month from now, just imagine if canelo record consisted of those names benavidez has fought to date,he'll had 100% ko ratio ffs. Canelo haters are so easy to debunk Lol.
 When u hit nothing but walking punching bags of course your gping to be accurate. Plant gonna show is how "accurate" he really is.
 
 Man did u WATCH his fight against Gavil??? Looked like SHT and should of LOST. Landed only 25% and the Romanian CAB driver even DROPPED him.Comment
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 Exactly. I Canelo didn't fight movers like Bivol, Flpyd, and Lara and just guys like David Lemuix he would have Zero losses and 100% KO streak
 Lmao exactly, its easy to be that accurate when your entire opposition is there to be hit, Plant will expose Bena real accuracy in exactly a month from now, just imagine if canelo record consisted of those names benavidez has fought to date,he'll had 100% ko ratio ffs. Canelo haters are so easy to debunk Lol.
 
 Haters gonna hate just like they'll find another "Boogeyman" to jump on. I expect a very tough fight for Benavidez against Plant. He's a big step up. I also never under stood why he never jumped into the SMW tournament?Comment
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 Yeap,thats one good question alrite, keeping in mind benavidez is former 2x smw champ ,no supersix no unifications for the so called boogeyman Lol ,lets just put blame on al haymon and pbc matchmaker.
 Exactly. I Canelo didn't fight movers like Bivol, Flpyd, and Lara and just guys like David Lemuix he would have Zero losses and 100% KO streak
 
 Haters gonna hate just like they'll find another "Boogeyman" to jump on. I expect a very tough fight for Benavidez against Plant. He's a big step up. I also never under stood why he never jumped into the SMW tournament?Comment
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