Is Wilder ducking Andy Ruiz?

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  • hugh grant
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    #11
    Originally posted by famicommander
    Ruiz needed a gift to beat a completely shot Luis Ortiz, whom Wilder knocked a much better version of twice. Despite two legitimate knockdowns and one bogus knockdown, Ortiz still won 8 rounds clean against Ruiz. Should've been a 113-112 win for Ortiz.

    Wilder would obliterate Ruiz.
    This is definition of triangle theory. Are there certain exceptional circumstances where triangle theories are valid?

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    • PRINCEKOOL
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      #12
      It will only become clear who Wilder fights next when? The Fury vs Usyk negotiations are completed.

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      • juggernaut666
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        #13
        Probably just don’t want anything to do with any title shot soon . If he defeats Ruiz he’s facing Usyk or Fury ,he’s not going to want Usyk and probably never wants Fury again ? I’d say he’s either trying for Ngannou which is his biggest payday outside Joshua or he’s wants another easy touch somewhere else for now to keep his name out there ? A surprise opponent could be his own brother who he said he’d fight in the past wouldn’t be shocking either to add to that great resume ? Lol

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        • 4truth
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          #14
          Originally posted by famicommander
          Ruiz needed a gift to beat a completely shot Luis Ortiz, whom Wilder knocked a much better version of twice. Despite two legitimate knockdowns and one bogus knockdown, Ortiz still won 8 rounds clean against Ruiz. Should've been a 113-112 win for Ortiz.

          Wilder would obliterate Ruiz.
          I thought Andy won, as did most people, including the judges.

          Andy has one of the best chins in boxing. If Wilder can't stop Andy, Andy wins on points by a lot.

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          • elfag
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            #15
            ruiz would have to be at his best to beat Wilder

            if they both come in half ass then wilder knocks out ruiz. even when ruiz lost weight he looked like chit, he actually performed better when he was fat

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            • Sctrojan
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              #16
              I think so. Hes probably asking for a kings ransom because he knows if Ruiz can slip past that right hand of his in the first couple rds,he's in for a rough night. PBC/Showtime arent willing to fork it out because this matchup more than likely will not sell anywhere near enough to cover Wilders demands.

              Chin,fast hands and a good close range game against Wilders non-existent inside fight capabilities isn't a favorable outlook for Wilder. If Ruiz can get right back up with his legs still under him from that vicious lefthook from Joshua,a shot that would've laid out any current heavyweight imo,it's not a given Wilder stops him with a single right or definitely not that slap he landed on Helenius. Even Ortiz landed a few clean bombs on Ruiz that had little effect on him. Guy is a difficult matchup for Wilder and could very well end Wilders chances of one last monster payday against the likes of Usyk and especially Joshua.

              Wilder ISNT fighting Ruiz,period.

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              • STREET CLEANER
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                #17
                Who knows what is happening in the background. Fury/Usyk not being official yet, other title eliminations fights ordered things might look different in a few months.

                If Usyk and Fury don't get signed it will open up if both are looking for fights or vacate.

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                • VG_Addict
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                  #18
                  Wilder is never going to fight anyone half-decent after fighting Fury. And the only reason he even fought Fury was because he thought he was past his best after coming off a long layoff where he gained a ****load of weight and was battling mental health issues.

                  Wilder is the Milli Vanilli of heavyweight world champions.
                  Last edited by VG_Addict; 02-18-2023, 11:44 AM.

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                  • JakeTheBoxer
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                    #19
                    Wilder -Ruiz would be by far better and more competitive fight than Fury -Wilder 4 or Wilder - Ngannou in boxing.

                    Only Wilder casuals say the opposite. I mean, which normal boxing fan is interested in watching Fury beating Wilder`s sore ass again?

                    And who exactly wants to see Wilder fighting UFC fighter in a boxing match?

                    Wilder diehards are as ****** as Fury diehards. Fury diehards keep saying that Fury obviously beats Joshua, Sanchez, Ruiz, Usyk, Joyce...so it is ok if Fury ducks them all and fights Chisora for example.

                    Wilder diehards think that Wilder getting beaten like a dog by Fury all over again means Wilder is the second best heavyweight.

                    Fu.ck that logic.

                    But I guess Wilder will never fight a dangerous opponent that is not Fury. he can`t afford a loss to somebody else. That is very important for his fake "legacy".

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                    • sicko
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                      #20
                      NO! Wants to be paid well for it big guarantee and no "Based On PPV Sales" type of agreement

                      ALSO doesn't want to go back to Showtime...so when he says he is FREE...he is talking Network/Platform Free Agent he is still PBC and still with Haymon and he cleared that up recently



                      also want to go fight international like Steph Fulton, like Tony Harrison are doing
                      Last edited by sicko; 02-18-2023, 12:36 PM.

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