Has Hopkins actually EXECUTED any opponent?

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    #31
    Originally posted by street bully
    Quit grasping at straw, and appreciate te legend while he is here. The 1D youngsters can display all the lack of defense and angles when he is gone.
    You call facts, straws?

    Look Hop is good, fine and dandy, but he didn't beat the will out of the best guys he fought. That's all I am saying.

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    • letsgobrady
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      #32
      Originally posted by jreckoning
      You call facts, straws?

      Look Hop is good, fine and dandy, but he didn't beat the will out of the best guys he fought. That's all I am saying.
      exactly, bernard is a good fighter but i don't know if he is as great as most make him out to be

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        #33
        There is a big difference though in execution style. See, Hopkins beat his opponents down in every way. They weren't able to land a single good punch and they got broken down to the body, head, mauled, battered, headbutted. It's different than if you just get plain KO'd.

        From a normal KO where you get hit with one shot, you can always come back and tell yourself that you had a bad night and if I was concentrating I could have avoided it. With the Hopkins style execution you can't tell yourself anything. No matter what happened, you lose. Nothing you did could have won you the fight.

        You couldn't land a lucky punch, you couldn't outpace him, it was a beat down in which nothing you did could have won you the fight, and that is true execution and it is the most debilitating sort of loss. You realise that no matter how good you fought you couldn't have won, whereas if you were just hit with one punch, you might still have won, you might have even been winning. With Jackson, he was often getting outboxed. In a rematch, you can just outbox him again and make sure you avoid his big shot, but with Hopkins what's different in a rematch? Nothing. That's a boxing execution.

        Not that necessarily agree that he did it to many guys but he certainly did it to 'Tito'.
        Last edited by BennyST; 09-25-2009, 09:49 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by BennyST
          There is a big difference though in execution style. See, Hopkins beat his opponents down in every way. They weren't able to land a single good punch and they got broken down to the body, head, mauled, battered, headbutted. It's different than if you just get plain KO'd.

          From a normal KO where you get hit with one shot, you can always come back and tell yourself that you had a bad night and if I was concentrating I could have avoided it. With the Hopkins style execution you can't tell yourself anything. No matter what happened, you lose. Nothing you did could have won you the fight.

          You couldn't land a lucky punch, you couldn't outpace him, it was a beat down in which nothing you did could have won you the fight, and that is true execution and it is the most debilitating sort of loss. You realise that no matter how good you fought you couldn't have won, whereas if you were just hit with one punch, you might still have won, you might have even been winning. With Jackson, he was often getting outboxed. In a rematch, you can just outbox him again, but with Hopkins what's different in a rematch? Nothing. That's a boxing execution.
          How come he couldn't beat Taylor?

          ****** Hop, I hated Taylor. and he couldn't do any of that **** to him. And he had a rematch and still couldn't do it

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            #35
            Originally posted by BennyST
            There is a big difference though in execution style. See, Hopkins beat his opponents down in every way. They weren't able to land a single good punch and they got broken down to the body, head, mauled, battered, headbutted. It's different than if you just get plain KO'd.

            From a normal KO where you get hit with one shot, you can always come back and tell yourself that you had a bad night and if I was concentrating I could have avoided it. With the Hopkins style execution you can't tell yourself anything. No matter what happened, you lose. Nothing you did could have won you the fight.

            You couldn't land a lucky punch, you couldn't outpace him, it was a beat down in which nothing you did could have won you the fight, and that is true execution and it is the most debilitating sort of loss. You realise that no matter how good you fought you couldn't have won, whereas if you were just hit with one punch, you might still have won, you might have even been winning. With Jackson, he was often getting outboxed. In a rematch, you can just outbox him again and make sure you avoid his big shot, but with Hopkins what's different in a rematch? Nothing. That's a boxing execution.

            Not that necessarily agree that he did it to many guys but he certainly did it to 'Tito'.
            this just sounds like something a hopkins fan would say, why couldn't hopkins do that to jones ,taylor or calzaghe? come on now, the pavlik fight the tarver fight and the trinidad fight thats it besides that bernard didn't dominate anyone except some nobodys but if bernard beat them they were great fighters bein that the middleweight division was such a great division at the tim

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              #36
              Originally posted by TheGR8TESTOAT
              I mean the term executed can be used by fighters like prime Tyson, Prime Foreman, Pacquiao, even Vitali, David Tua, prime Roy Jones(Griffin II) etc etc.

              Hopkins in all of his dull boring career never "EXECUTED" shhhhhhhhhh son and thats REAL TALK.
              Pre-trinidad he would be more offensive and score the big kos

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                #37
                Originally posted by VERSATILE2K10
                Damn, TheGR8TESTOAT, copying my real talk saying? That's wrong.
                i dont bite no scrubs son im OG to the core. REAL TALK is all me cuz i spit the REAL TALK unlike alot of the biased nuthugger boring-hopkins fan boys here including yourself. if you really did practice real talk you'd admit hopkins is over all boring now thats REAL TALK.

                also you never been to big vegas fight cause you cant afford to go thats REAL TALK son.

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                • Kevin Jesus
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                  #38
                  He def executed Trinidad and Johnson, mentally.

                  Jones
                  Taylor
                  De La Hoya
                  Tarver
                  Winky Wright
                  Calzaghe

                  Were all alright after the Hopkins fight.

                  We have yet to see if Pavlik's loss to Hopkins really messed him up in the long run.

                  I don't think Hopkins can "Execute" a natural top LHW. I can see Hopkins ruining Cloud, and Adamek though. Pascal and Dawson would put up a good fight against Hopkins.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by TheGR8TESTOAT
                    I mean the term executed can be used by fighters like prime Tyson, Prime Foreman, Pacquiao, even Vitali, David Tua, prime Roy Jones(Griffin II) etc etc.

                    Hopkins in all of his dull boring career never "EXECUTED" shhhhhhhhhh son and thats REAL TALK.
                    You can't be serious.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by letsgobrady
                      exactly, bernard is a good fighter but i don't know if he is as great as most make him out to be
                      Just by taking Tito's zero is more than enough to make him a great fighter.

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