Why is Al protecting Spence so hard?

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  • sbbigmike
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    #11
    Always felt his chin was shaky, he was fighting at 154 and started boiling down to welter and facing lww, he still ain't beat a real welter killer with a big welter punch...Danny Garcia and ugas had him spitting his mouth piece out. Well TC a real welter with real stopping power....

    Given so we understand why he running from TC, could Spence impose himself on a welter that ain't coming up from the lww divisions...

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    • Floyd is TBE
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      #12
      Spence fights the top dogs at 147 = Is being protected
      Crawford fights bums and washed fighters = Everyone is ducking him

      You anti-PBC people are trying to hard. The fact is Thurman would easily be the best win on Crawford's pathetic resume.

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        #13
        Originally posted by -MEGA-

        I have no reason not to believe Crawford and how PBC was slow-playing him in negotiations. Crawford is not really one to speak to the media and then when he does I doubt its going to be a complete lie. Plus lets not act like AL hasnt had a track record for these sorts of things.
        His track record of taking deals that lessen the possibility of a major fight.

        True but the last time he did he sued Arum for racism.

        Al doesnt speak to the media to correct narratives. Maybe he should on this because even if every point you made is correct, that doesnt justify a side deal for a bum.

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          #14
          Originally posted by War Room
          Lunatoons got it right, why is he being protected so hard?



          He should be a middleweight right now. Still fighting guppies and doesn't want to **** with a master guppie.

          Other side of the street doe!

          Al is a GENIUS. He knows 98% of boxing fans are ****** and will pay more money for the fight if they prolong the fight. Tell me I’m wrong. He could do it 5 years and the dummies would still come out to buy 2 grandpas fight. Why not? Mayweather is STILL making money fighting and so are NON boxers. So why not??

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            Wasnt it Crawford that negotiated with BLK prime and decided to fight Avesenyan? That isnt Al protecting Spence is it?

            I guess as long as the fight doesn’t get made and Al doesnt go to the media he will get the blame.



            Crawford didn't negotiated that fight until after PBC stated that the fight probably wouldn't be til early 2023 at the earliest. Stop making excuses for Al Haymon. Crawford mentioned in February that he wanted to fight 3x in 2022. He wanted Spence twice (rematch if asked for) and the winner of the Charlo/Corcoran fight..... Fast forward to October and nothing has been solidified for Crawford to get in the ring in 2022 vs either of the PBC fighters he targeted. What was he suppose to do, sit and wait......FOH. Crawford has a family to feed.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point

              Crawford didn't negotiated that fight until after PBC stated that the fight probably wouldn't be til early 2023 at the earliest. Stop making excuses for Al Haymon. Crawford mentioned in February that he wanted to fight 3x in 2022. He wanted Spence twice (rematch if asked for) and the winner of the Charlo/Corcoran fight..... Fast forward to October and nothing has been solidified for Crawford to get in the ring in 2022 vs either of the PBC fighters he targeted. What was he suppose to do, sit and wait......FOH. Crawford has a family to feed.
              How do you know this? That is not what Ive read.

              Saying you want to fight and negotiating with the business are not the same thing.

              Just a few months ago we were told Al wasnt trying to make the Tank v Ryan fight. Well before that we were told he was blocking Canelo v Plant.

              Just sayin……

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                #17
                Originally posted by Da Boxer
                Well.....IMHO its the Floyd effect. Now, dont get me wrong, I'm a Floyd fan but the way that the advertised and to some extent "protected" his "0" is what we have today as boxing legacy.

                Charlo, Spence, to an extent Crawford and bunch other are following this playing card of carefully matched opponents to protect the "0" and hype them up. This is the reason that boxing is **** now a days.
                Floyd Mayweather is the father of all marination games. Spence through the years having displayed no sense of urgency even after having 2 accidents, must have come from Floyd's whispers. I suspect it infected the entire PBC stable and had huge influence on the Spence/Crawford talks. Also, how else would you explain the rampant inactivity in the camp as if every one of them will eventually get their super money fights?

                "People said I was scared, a coward, to fight Manny Pacquiao. Everyone can have their own opinion. I always said, 'if it's meant to happen, it'll happen.' At one particular time, that fight was worth $60 million. I waited until the time was right, when things were on our terms and we were the A side and we could do things our way, we turned that into a $600-million fight."
                Mayweather Backs Golden Boy's Decision on Canelo-Golovkin
                Last edited by maguirre; 01-31-2023, 07:47 PM.

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                • War Room
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

                  Al is a GENIUS. He knows 98% of boxing fans are ****** and will pay more money for the fight if they prolong the fight. Tell me I’m wrong. He could do it 5 years and the dummies would still come out to buy 2 grandpas fight. Why not? Mayweather is STILL making money fighting and so are NON boxers. So why not??
                  Al is a very smart individual, but in this game you need money to go with them smarts if you plan on staying at the top and right now =---> he's running on fumes. These two aren't making nowhere close to $100 million total. It's a smaller fight because their fame is fringe. Tank vs Garcia will probably do better than Crawford vs Spence.
                  Last edited by War Room; 01-31-2023, 05:34 PM.

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by fumiphobic

                    Floyd Mayweather is the father of all marination games. Spence through the years having displayed no sense of urgency even after having 2 accidents, must have come from Floyd's whispers. I suspect it infected the entire PBC stable and had huge influence on the Spence/Crawford talks. Also, how else would you explain the rampant inactivity in the camp as if every one of them will eventually get their super money fights?
                    Basically it. PBC will not make the fight unless the opponent is compromised.

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                    • Str8.2.Da.Point
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      How do you know this? That is not what Ive read.

                      Saying you want to fight and negotiating with the business are not the same thing.

                      Just a few months ago we were told Al wasnt trying to make the Tank v Ryan fight. Well before that we were told he was blocking Canelo v Plant.

                      Just sayin……
                      What TF are you talking about. Everything I stated is documented. There are interviews with Crawford stating he wanted the to fight 3x in 2022. He stated that after stopping Porter. Said it again just before the Spence/Ugas bout. Everything I stated is on a timeline. You can use your WiFi to simply do research rather rambling off emotions. If you were actually just relying on facts, then you wouldn't be dis*****g what I posted.

                      Don't try to point out that "saying you want to fight and negotiating with the business" is 2 different things because you probably have an excuse on why Spence has shown ZERO real action on trying to push for the fight to happen. Crawford has attempted to do all within his power to get this fight. He resigned with Top Rank after the Postol fight when promised an opportunity vs Manny....He extended his contract with Top Rank after the Jeff Horn fight with promises he'd get the Thurman/Spence/Manny fights. He left Top Rank when Spence claimed that Bob was the problem. Crawford was the one making the calls to negotiate and find a financial backer for their purses. Crawford was talking directly to Al Haymon trying to negotiate a reasonable contract even though he kept getting low balled with every offer. Meanwhile Spence was "playing with his horses" drinking with his buddies and dancing on social media. These negotiations went from March to October with one fighter trying to negotiate with an "advisor" not a promoter.

                      But you claim to have read something that proves Crawford didn't do his share of trying to make the fight?....FOH.

                      Damn all that bull**** you talking about Tank/Ryan or Canelo/Plant......Most of those rumors were created by ignorant mfer with a youtube channel. None of that has **** to do with what I'm talking about with Crawford.

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