Boxing needs another big storyline

[Nash out]

Beterbiev vs Yarde was a very good fight, but the storylines in boxing aren't too hot right now. Thinking back to some tremendous Wrestling storylines with Stone Cold Steve Austin, like when Rakishi did it for the Rock, or when Austin went to Pillman's house. Also when Austin threatened to burn down the Smackdown Hotel when the Rock was staying there.

Others as well like Austin's Brett Hart call-out, his feuds with Undertaker, Kane, HHH, McMahon, etc. His storyline when he went out on the drink during the WCW invasion, only to leave the bar, turn up and kick-ass. He was letting his WWF stable down, but the story to have him redeem himself was a great one.

The Great Nash remembers Mayweather having a great storyline with Hatton, and a great long-term plotting storyline in his on and off bout with Pacquaio, and the De La Hoya storyline was great as well. Fury's storyline vs Wlad was well written too. The whole mess on with the sponge under the ring. That was good work by the writing team, but we need more.

Nash feels like the boxing writing team/storytellers are getting lazy, and we need to go back to great writing like Mike Tyson's in-ring dialogue to Lennox Lewis. And as much as Nash was never a massive fan of Rid**** Bowe's character/gimmick, the storyline when he binned the belt because of his past "rivalry" with Lennox Lewis was tremendous, and it's a shame that story get quashed.

What are the next big storylines in boxing? Could Joshua vs Wilder's story from years back be picked up and used as the basis to fuel a new story? Or are there others on the way?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

“I did it for Rock” was a terrible angle. Made no sense. It should have been Kurt Angle he debuted the night Austin got run down and was champion by the time Stone Cold returned. WWF missed an open goal with that one.

The big difference with boxing is you can’t really manufacture stories like you can in wrestling. Sometimes you get magic like Benn-Eubank or Groves-DeGale but it has to be genuine or the public will just see through it.

[Boxfan83]

If promoters worked together storylines could easily be made.

[Nash out]

“I did it for Rock” was a terrible angle. Made no sense. It should have been Kurt Angle he debuted the night Austin got run down and was champion by the time Stone Cold returned. WWF missed an open goal with that one.

The big difference with boxing is you can’t really manufacture stories like you can in wrestling. Sometimes you get magic like Benn-Eubank or Groves-DeGale but it has to be genuine or the public will just see through it.

RJJ, you remember this storyline 23 years later. Most boxing storylines are forgotten 23 days later. Yes, the two you mentioned were great, but Nash would love more of these. Nash out

[MusoMeanderings]

Crawford vs Spence is a nice courtroom drama.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Do you know what helps story lines develop? Letting the fighters fight, take on rematches, and attempt to avenge loses 'But there is a mass of boxing fans, who seem to detest rematches'.

Story lines develop over time, and then through battles 'Theme's are created'.

Fury has created a story line and theme between himself and Usyk. For a long time, the media were acting as if Fury was going to be all matey matey with Usyk 'There was a perception, that both fighters would be in admiration for each others abilities'.

And even myself, I thought? This match up is going to be banal.

Fury then done a interview were for the entire duration, he just completely bombarded Usyk with Heavy abuse 'At one point the interview was silenced live' Such was the intensity and crudeness of Fury.

And since that interview, a theme and genuine rivalry between Usyk & Fury began to develop 'Fury dictated and created that theme'.

This is one trait that Fury has, he seems to dictate the tone of the match up 'With most of his opponents'.

Only certain fighters seems to have disallowed Fury to dictate the tone. And those fighters were Wilder & Kiltschko.

People are complaining about Joshua vs Whyte II. But nobody can deny, that there is a theme between fighters 'That is show business, and that is also good match making'.

I watched this entire forum complain about Wilder vs Fury III, prior to that fight. I wanted to see Fury fight Wilder for the 3rd time over the Joshua fight. Because I understood that there was a theme between the fighters, which involved a extreme amount of passion,brutally and jeopardy.

And in all honesty, that was the last Heavyweight match up were I was complete engrossed during the entire build up 'It was awesome'.

Crawford vs Spence Junior, I think that fight is still developing. I am still adamant, that Crawford vs Spence Junior is the biggest all american title fight since Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield I.

Note: Other past fights with great themes for me were, Broner vs Malignaggi, Haye vs Bellew I, and more recently Romero vs Tank Davis.

[Nash out]

Do you know what helps story lines develop? Letting the fighters fight, take on rematches, and attempt to avenge loses 'But there is a mass of boxing fans, who seem to detest rematches'.

Story lines develop over time, and then through battles 'Theme's are created'.

Fury has created a story line and theme between himself and Usyk. For a long time, the media were acting as if Fury was going to be all matey matey with Usyk 'There was a perception, that both fighters would be in admiration for each others abilities'.

And even myself, I thought? This match up is going to be banal.

Fury then done a interview were for the entire duration, he just completely bombarded Usyk with Heavy abuse 'At one point the interview was silenced live' Such was the intensity and crudeness of Fury.

And since that interview, a theme and genuine rivalry between Usyk & Fury began to develop 'Fury dictated and created that theme'.

This is one trait that Fury has, he seems to dictate the tone of the match up 'With most of his opponents'.

Only certain fighters seems to have disallowed Fury to dictate the tone. And those fighters were Wilder & Kiltschko.

People are complaining about Joshua vs Whyte II. But nobody can deny, that there is a theme between fighters 'That is show business, and that is also good match making'.

I watched this entire forum complain about Wilder vs Fury III, prior to that fight. I wanted to see Fury fight Wilder for the 3rd time over the Joshua fight. Because I understood that there was a theme between the fighters, which involved a extreme amount of passion,brutally and jeopardy.

And in all honesty, that was the last Heavyweight match up were I was complete engrossed during the entire build up 'It was awesome'.

Crawford vs Spence Junior, I think that fight is still developing. I am still adamant, that Crawford vs Spence Junior is the biggest all american title fight since Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield I.

Note: Other past fights with great themes for me were, Broner vs Malignaggi, Haye vs Bellew I, and more recently Romero vs Tank Davis.

Great points, and Nash agrees on those 3 fights you listed at the end. Broner vs Malignaggi had multiple story angles with Jessica Corrazon, Broner's sidepiece and the love of Malignaggi's life, despite his feeble attempts to call her his weekend ***** as his tears dropped all over the ring. Nash out

[MONGOOSE66]

Boxing needs less fooken drama and more top fighters fighting each other. If you girls want drama. Theirs plenty of reality shows on.

[The D3vil]

“I did it for Rock” was a terrible angle. Made no sense. It should have been Kurt Angle he debuted the night Austin got run down and was champion by the time Stone Cold returned. WWF missed an open goal with that one.

The big difference with boxing is you can’t really manufacture stories like you can in wrestling. Sometimes you get magic like Benn-Eubank or Groves-DeGale but it has to be genuine or the public will just see through it.

Tell that to Don King. His "Great White Hope" storyline made Gerry Cooney a star.

Hell, there's plenty of manufactured "Mexico vs. Puerto Rico", "Black Vs. White" storylines in boxing's history.

Do you know what helps story lines develop? Letting the fighters fight, take on rematches, and attempt to avenge loses 'But there is a mass of boxing fans, who seem to detest rematches'.

This right here.

Also, it's easier to develop storylines when guys fight more than 1 or 2 times a year.

It's hard to develop a storyline, when guys are just showing up every 6 months to fight mandatories that no one cares about.

[Nash out]

Tell that to Don King. His "Great White Hope" storyline made Gerry Cooney a star.

Hell, there's plenty of manufactured "Mexico vs. Puerto Rico", "Black Vs. White" storylines in boxing's history.



This right here.

Also, it's easier to develop storylines when guys fight more than 1 or 2 times a year.

It's hard to develop a storyline, when guys are just showing up every 6 months to fight mandatories that no one cares about.

Boxing could hit a much wider appeal with more activity, and as you say, often part of that activity is against a no hoper with no story mandatory. And yeah, boxing stories are often manufactured/partly manufactured where promoters and fighters try to sell angles, just like top wrestlers could back in the WWF Attitude era, at a time wrestlers were household names due to those storylines and the charisma of the top guys, unlike now, and boxing can and has, sold itself by the same route at times in the past, but much less now.

Look at Mayweather's best All Access episodes, some great storytelling in there as part of the build up. Nash out