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  • Originally posted by Al Haymon View Post
    I have now challenged you TWICE to back up your statements. You came in here calling people idiots.


    For the third time, and since you came in this thread calling people idiots, explain how a P&D deal works. Who gets paid how much and how do the sales flow through?

    Meet the challenge.
    Is your assessment absolute? Is there a perfect science to data gathering and PPV distribution? Are all factors put into consideration? I don't think so?
    How can you ration people's desires? What if people both like the fighters that they are watching? Are you going to split that in half?

    When I gave you the data about pacquaio's increasing popularity, you simply ignored it.The fact that you trolling around this forum insulting pacquiao already shows your agenda. Like what I said so many times before what makes you think people will believe your crap..... only idiots would? Why? because the moment you took sides you already lost your credibility? And that's a fact!

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    • as if you have a cut

      wishing one day Floyd would throw money at you

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      • Originally posted by iHateThePacMan View Post
        Is your assessment absolute? Is there a perfect science to data gathering and PPV distribution? Are all factors put into consideration? I don't think so?
        How can you ration people's desires? What if people both like the fighters that they are watching? Are you going to split that in half?

        When I gave you the data about pacquaio's increasing popularity, you simply ignored it.The fact that you trolling around this forum insulting pacquiao already shows your agenda. Like what I said so many times before what makes you think people will believe your crap..... only idiots would? Why? because the moment you took sides you already lost your credibility? And that's a fact!
        You brought zero data to the table, We're STILL waiting for the education on PPV.

        All you did was say "Pac is growing. he was only down 30%"

        You came in here calling people idiots. When i challenged you (four times now) to provide ANY details about how PPV distribution works, you had none.

        basically, these numbers hurt your feelings...but you had no legitimate way to contest them.

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        • Originally posted by Al Haymon View Post
          You brought zero data to the table, We're STILL waiting for the education on PPV.

          All you did was say "Pac is growing. he was only down 30%"

          You came in here calling people idiots. When i challenged you (four times now) to provide ANY details about how PPV distribution works, you had none.

          basically, these numbers hurt your feelings...but you had no legitimate way to contest them.
          You gonna block me now? Did I hurt your feelings?

          To speak the truth. I actually remain unbiased the whole time.

          Here you go again putting things out of context. What about floyd losing 6o%? Oh you left that one out.

          Since its indeterminable amount, the right answer to the question lies in the contract agreement? right? or am I wrong?

          You can have all the data in the world, but if those two don't agree on something that data don't mean shietnitz? That's Fact! And that's is how it's really determined?

          Now, going back to your so called data analysis.Did the condition change? Yes, time changed, boxing changed, and pacquiao's popularity changed. Did Pac gain more buys since the JMM fight? Yes? so he can make a valid argument there. Are you telling me your going to deny this fact too?

          -iHateThePacMan

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          • Originally posted by LoRd EsCoBar View Post

            Now, going back to your so called data analysis.Did the condition change? Yes, time changed, boxing changed, and pacquiao's popularity changed. Did Pac gain more buys since the JMM fight? Yes? so he can make a valid argument there. Are you telling me your going to deny this fact too?

            Since (and including) the JMM fight, Pac's fights have done

            Pac vs JMM : 400K

            Pac vs Diaz : 200K

            Pac vs DLH : 1.2 mil

            Pac vs Hatt : 850K

            Pac vs MAC : TBD

            Now, are you telling me that Oscar had nothing to do with that 1.2 million? Hatton had nothing to do with that 850K?

            ...I would respectfully disagree, sir.

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            • As of today.


              http://www.ticketnetwork.com/tix/man...utm_medium=ppc

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              • Originally posted by Al Haymon View Post
                Pay Per View Sales:


                Vs Delahoya
                Mayweather: 2.4 million
                Pacquiao: 1.2 million

                Vs. Marquez
                Mayweather: 1.0 million
                Pacquiao: 400K

                Vs Hatton
                Mayweather: 950K
                Pacquiao: 825K

                Total:
                Mayweather: 4,35 million
                Pacquiao: 2.43 million

                Other Opponents

                Mayweather vs Baldomir: 325K
                Pacquiao vs Diaz: 175K

                Mayweather vs Judah: 390K
                Pacquiao vs Barrera: 350K

                Box Office Sales:

                Vs Delahoya
                Mayweather: 17,078 attendance; $18.4 million revenue (the record)
                Pacquiao: 14,468 attendance; $14.4 million revenue

                Vs. Marquez:
                Mayweather: 13,116 attendance
                Pacquiao: 11,061 attendance

                Vs Hatton:
                Mayweather: 15,488 attendance; $10.4 million revenue
                Pacquiao: 15,368 attendance, $8.8 million revenue


                Mayweather sells more against common opponents.
                Mayweather sells more against no-names (Baldomir/Diaz).

                Mayweather….sells more.


                Congratulations to Floyd for bringing the fans back to boxing...great for THE SPORT.



                after all this said and done. MANNY PACQUAIO still the face of boxing...

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                • Originally posted by S.G. View Post
                  men lie, women lie, numbers don't!
                  CO SIGN BABY! let's put together some logic!

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                  • But at the end of this generation, PPV sales and all that won't matter. People will be talking about LEGACY in the future. People will be talking about how great such a fight was and people will be watching GREATNESS over and over. People will be replaying exciting and competitive fights as many as they can just like how we'd want to watch great fights from the past over and over.

                    Mayweather will be forgotten and will be criticized more in the future, but Pacman won't, Hopkins won't, Cotto won't, and those who fought the best of the best won't.

                    There's still plenty of time for Mayweather to redeem himself however. That will only happen once he steps up and fights the best of options of his generation. I hope he does that, because I would hate to see such a great boxer be forgotten or talked **** on by future boxing fans.

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                    • Topic creator wants a poor country like the Philippines to be able to buy pacquiaos fights constantly?

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