Comments Thread For: De La Hoya Optimistic that Tank-Garcia Will Lead to More Collaboration With PBC

[DClefthook]

You saying it doesn't make it so. Ryan and Vergil are certainly talented and skilled enough to beat anyone in and around thier division no matter the promoters those fighters are aligned with. A year or two ago Mungia probably does lose to Mall but at this point in Malls career,I'm not so sure now.

If we're going off of track records of not wanting thier fighters taking "L's", its been Haymon himself that has declined very lucrative offers for several of his big fighters for that reason. Wilder,Jermall,Ortiz,Cruz and now Spence for instance.

Oscar's right here and shares a scenario we all should hope comes to fruition. Oscar giving in to PBC/Showtime to be the lead promoter but still having DAZN involved is him putting his money where his mouth is. It's no secret PBC is struggling financially,Haymon being more willing to cross promotion will no doubt lift that financial burden and will give his stable of fighters more dates than the 1 a year they're currently being given.

Win Win for all involved.

This stoopid mollasucka says it's no secret that PBC is losing money. But the story just came out last week that DAZN has lost 6 billion dollars.You have nothing to say about that huh man? Just keep lying about the only network that has consistently given you 90% of the best fights over the last ten years. You say Haymon declined lucrative offers and in the next sentence you include Jermall for instance but fail to mention that Oscar fuqed the Jermall v Mungia fight up. You do know Virgil Ortiz only fought once in 2022 right? Damn we gotta deal with dumb misinformed muhphuckas like you.

[DClefthook]

You are seeing diffently,he's conceded on nearly every aspect of negotiations with his star pupil,Ryan, against a fighter that nearly everyone here says he has no chance against. He would've done the same with Mungia/Mall had PBC/SHOWTIME been open to a co-promotion of some sort. If they're were able to do with Ryan/Tank no reason they couldn't done it here.

Honest qustion as i'm drawing a blank here,what other fighters has Oscar been overly protective of and what fights has he himself prevented?

Well if you're drawing a blank I'll fill the blank for you idiot. He prevented the the Jermall/Mungia fight from happening on Showtime because Espinoza proved to Oscar that he doesn't need him and Dazn for shyte. Oscar fuqed up the fights between Ryan vs JoJo/Tank/Devin and Mungia vs Andrade. Your boy Oscaris a POS. You know it and so does everyone else. Why do you defend a ******* abuser who is on video lettinf hookers stick kitchen utensils up his azz while his wife and child were at home. I'll bet your response will be "well technically he wasn't married at the time". You're probably at home with a pasta spoon in your butt now!

[Bronx2245]

April is going to be lit, full of good fights. Ortiz will take his ass whooping, and we'll see if Stanionis will fight Boots.

Coppinger called it a "coinflip fight!" I concur!

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You are seeing diffently,he's conceded on nearly every aspect of negotiations with his star pupil,Ryan, against a fighter that nearly everyone here says he has no chance against. He would've done the same with Mungia/Mall had PBC/SHOWTIME been open to a co-promotion of some sort. If they're were able to do with Ryan/Tank no reason they couldn't done it here.

Honest qustion as i'm drawing a blank here,what other fighters has Oscar been overly protective of and what fights has he himself prevented?

1. As of now he hasn’t conceded anything with Ryan because the fight isn’t official. I won’t believe it’s happening until Ryan is in the ring based on his track history. Plus, Ryan is the challenger in this situation and a 0 time world champion. He’s not really in a position of power unless you count Instagram followers.
2. In the munguia vs Charlo situation, again munguia is the challenger and not in a position to demand a co-promotion as if munguia was some sort if established champion.
3. Aside from Oscar spending years protecting both Ryan and Munguia, he was also the promotor for Canelo when he dropped the wbc title on 2 occasions. The first prevented Canelo vs ggg from happening when it should have 2 yrs earlier and the 2nd prevented Canelo vs charlo from happening. He also was the promotor when Santa Cruz was finding every reason not to face rigo. He even promoted Cotto at the end of his career and when Cotto wanted a big fight, Oscar would only allow pbc fighters to land that fight if they agreed to sign with him beyond that fight which clearly prevented that from happening.

[Bronx2245]

well if you're drawing a blank i'll fill the blank for you idiot. He prevented the the jermall/mungia fight from happening on showtime because espinoza proved to oscar that he doesn't need him and dazn for shyte. Oscar fuqed up the fights between ryan vs jojo/tank/devin and mungia vs andrade. Your boy oscaris a pos. You know it and so does everyone else. Why do you defend a ******* abuser who is on video lettinf hookers stick kitchen utensils up his azz while his wife and child were at home. I'll bet your response will be "well technically he wasn't married at the time". You're probably at home with a pasta spoon in your butt now!

hahahahaha!!!!

[El_Maldito_Rey]

I only mentioned those 2 because golden boy doesn’t have much more than that and that’s the promotion that’s being discussed in this article. Please tell me the current golden boy fighters that have really faced significant challenges because last I checked, Ryan has bailed on multiple significant fights and munguia has declined multiple titles shots along with Oscar ruining him facing Charlo. Pbc definitely has fighters who are protected also ( yet that guy I responded to said “only” pbc fighters are scared of taking L’s) meanwhil, Jermell charlo fought all comers at 154 and other than the Crawford situation, Spence has faced better competition than any current golden boy fighter, and likely all of them combined.

OK, so you only listed 2 fighters from PBC. How big is the PBC roster? And only two are willing to face any challenges? Maybe one, depending on if you believe Spence really wants the Crawford fight or not.

Besides, Spence and Charlo are already into their 30s, Ryan(24), Mungiua(26), and Ortiz(24) still have plenty of time to fight better competition and catch up to where Spence and Charlo are right now in terms of resume. Who was Spence fighting at 26? Algieri? You think Algieri was some kind of world beater? He doesn't have a career defining win. And to be honest, his resume isn't even all that great. Stank is 28 and has yet to risk anything.

Stank was the same age as Ryan is right now when PBC nut lickers were making excuses for him not to fight Lomachenko, but now all of a sudden 23-24 isn't too young to step up and risk it all?

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OK, so you only listed 2 fighters from PBC. How big is the PBC roster? And only two are willing to face any challenges? Maybe one, depending on if you believe Spence really wants the Crawford fight or not.

Besides, Spence and Charlo are already into their 30s, Ryan(24), Mungiua(26), and Ortiz(24) still have plenty of time to fight better competition and catch up to where Spence and Charlo are right now in terms of resume. Who was Spence fighting at 26? Algieri? You think Algieri was some kind of world beater? He doesn't have a career defining win. And to be honest, his resume isn't even all that great. Stank is 28 and has yet to risk anything.

Stank was the same age as Ryan is right now when PBC nut lickers were making excuses for him not to fight Lomachenko, but now all of a sudden 23-24 isn't too young to step up and risk it all?

You’re all over the place and getting emotional. Try and stay on topic if your brain allows you to do so.
1. This article is talking about what Oscar is saying (not haymon talking about what he plans to do with pbc or arum talking about what he wants to do with top rank) and his history has shown that he is full of shet as he is just as guilty as everyone else of protecting his fighters and having conflict with rival promotors.
2. I didn’t defend any promotion whether it’s pbc or top rank or anyone else. So you going on your weird rant is irrelevant. They are all guilty of protecting fighters and Oscar is included in that comment and is just as guilty if not more than the rest. Both Ryan and munguia have declined title shots, both have faced nobody relevant and Oscar is a major reason why.

So stop deflecting. Does Oscar have anyone in his roster taking high risk fights? Is Oscar guilty of protecting his fighters from risks? Yes or no?

[Sctrojan]

Well if you're drawing a blank I'll fill the blank for you idiot. He prevented the the Jermall/Mungia fight from happening on Showtime because Espinoza proved to Oscar that he doesn't need him and Dazn for shyte. Oscar fuqed up the fights between Ryan vs JoJo/Tank/Devin and Mungia vs Andrade. Your boy Oscaris a POS. You know it and so does everyone else. Why do you defend a ******* abuser who is on video lettinf hookers stick kitchen utensils up his azz while his wife and child were at home. I'll bet your response will be "well technically he wasn't married at the time". You're probably at home with a pasta spoon in your butt now!

Dude,you're easily the most prejudice,hateful,emotional n definitely worst poster on this site. With such diatribe like that,youre not worth anyone's time,certainly not mine...carry on.

[DClefthook]

Dude,you're easily the most prejudice,hateful,emotional n definitely worst poster on this site. With such diatribe like that,youre not worth anyone's time,certainly not mine...carry on.

Once again you avoided the question like always. Why do you look up to a man who let's hookers stick objects up his buttbutt? FIGGET!

[DClefthook]

OK, so you only listed 2 fighters from PBC. How big is the PBC roster? And only two are willing to face any challenges? Maybe one, depending on if you believe Spence really wants the Crawford fight or not.

Besides, Spence and Charlo are already into their 30s, Ryan(24), Mungiua(26), and Ortiz(24) still have plenty of time to fight better competition and catch up to where Spence and Charlo are right now in terms of resume. Who was Spence fighting at 26? Algieri? You think Algieri was some kind of world beater? He doesn't have a career defining win. And to be honest, his resume isn't even all that great. Stank is 28 and has yet to risk anything.

Stank was the same age as Ryan is right now when PBC nut lickers were making excuses for him not to fight Lomachenko, but now all of a sudden 23-24 isn't too young to step up and risk it all?

Hey Mr El_Rey, if Trump gets reelected are you going to support him finishing the wall the keep Mexicans, Haitians and central Americans out?