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  • WhoreUs
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    #21
    Originally posted by Real OG
    I understand but this is a business and Mayweather - Pacquiao is more important

    The only thing thats pissing me off is everybody writing Pacquiao off ( Hopefully after Pacquiao - Cotto, people can start posting with sense again )
    pac-pbf is a no brainer. mosley will only get a pbf fight if pac-pbf can't get made. money talks and pac-pbf is more money.

    i understand why they're writing pacquiao off. pacquiao has no business at 147 tbh.

    i think cotto is probably the only top 147 guy pac could beat tbh.

    floyd would be heavily favored against pac. especially since floyd has filled out nicely at 147 and he seemingly didn't lose any of his sharpness or speed with the layoff.

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    • FromAfrica
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      #22
      yo i was just thinking bout the part in the marquez - mayweather fight when he said...."i can feel when he's (mayweather) about to throw that punch...i'm not abnormal or anything but i can feel when hes about to throw that punch."

      me and my ni99as were rollin.

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      • Cuauhtémoc1520
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        #23
        Originally posted by Stickman
        Mostly written by fanboys, or people who don't know **** about boxing. I gave marquez a 1 in 200 chance of winning, which was fairly accurate. I think using the posts written by the mexican fans of a mexican fighter to present the general thought of the people on this forum is a little....insane.




        Cotto is a great body puncher, and honestly, I've never even heard of a fight where a guy couldn't catch the body. Maybe if Pacman were big enough to be able to reach Cotto from the outside, but with Cotto being the bigger guy? He's going to pound on Pacman's midsection for the entire first half of the fight, slow Manny down significantly, and make it a pretty even match for the last half. I think Manny wins the first half of the fight, and Cotto the last half, with a good chance at catching Manny in the last 4 rounds and winning by KO.

        He might cut Cotto, but I don't think it'll be stopped. If there's a cut, it'll most likely come from a clash of heads when Cotto is inside working downstairs.
        Then you need to watch some more fights....

        Cotto never touched Marg to the body because Marg was countering with uppercuts all night long. Boxing isn't bar room brawl, there ARE things you can do to counter a body puncher.

        Cotto has to get inside to catch the body, you can't do consistent damage from the outside to the body. You can throw a right to the body ala Mayweather but you leave yourself open to a counter right (or left in Pacs case) and need to have serious speed to pull that off.

        Cotto will chase, Pac will punch and move. Yes Cotto has a chance of catching Pac but it will be slim because Pac is used to fighting much faster fighters than Cotto.

        You can't hit what you can't catch. Pac is lightning fast with his feet, that sets up his hands. The most dangerous speed is not in the hands, it's in your feet.

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        • Sox8055
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          #24
          Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
          Floyd never seriously wanted that fight. The same way he promised Marg a fight but was never serious about it.

          Floyd is a great fighter, don't get me wrong but he wants to keep that 0 intact. He has picked opponents that he knows he can beat.

          An old DLH, a small JMM, a straight forward Hatton, he knows the deal. Sugar Shane in his prime was a dangerous man for him.

          I feel bad for Shane because he seems to be the odd man out
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          Shane in his prime is the same what he is today. A Brawler with speed, power and not much boxing IQ. He would just be embarrassed.

          Mayweather would make Mosley look old at any era or weight. That's y Mosley dint want none of him at 135. It would have been his first lost.

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          • Cuauhtémoc1520
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            #25
            Originally posted by Sox8055
            Shane in his prime is the same what he is today. A Brawler with speed, power and not much boxing IQ. He would just be embarrassed.

            Mayweather would make Mosley look old at any era or weight. That's y Mosley dint want none of him at 135. It would have been his first lost.
            Did you just call Mosley a brawler?

            hahahahahahahahahah.......wow I have heard it all. I guess you think Margarito is a skilled boxer then.

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            • trg6863
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              #26
              Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
              Really? Then why did so many people think JMM actually had a chance? I have read thread after thread as to how JMM was going to shock people and of course the fight was made....

              Cotto is a great body puncher but you can't hit what you can't catch. Pac's speed advantage will not only come in his hands but more so in his feet.

              Pac stops Cotto on cuts....
              Be real. Did those people really believe that or was that wishful thinking?

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              • Eric Holder
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                #27
                I think Floyd outpoints Manny in a one sided fight that goes 12 but otherwise I agree with everything you wrote Cuauhtemoc

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                • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by trg6863
                  Be real. Did those people really believe that or was that wishful thinking?
                  Well I think most knew but there were many that thought Floyds lay off and Marquez boxing would give him a chance.

                  Originally posted by El Cabron
                  I think Floyd outpoints Manny in a one sided fight that goes 12 but otherwise I agree with everything you wrote Cuauhtemoc
                  You could be right but I laughed out loud at the dude that called Mosley a "brawler". That guy was one of the best young boxers to ever come out of L.A. His skills were the only ones I saw really match up with DLH as far as pure boxing and speed.

                  Prime I think Mosely would have a great chance to beat Floyd but now, I agree, it probably ends in a decision win for Floyd.

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                  • savorduhflavor
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                    Did you just call Mosley a brawler?

                    hahahahahahahahahah.......wow I have heard it all. I guess you think Margarito is a skilled boxer then.
                    Umm....that's actually pretty accurate.

                    I don't understand where this misconception that Mosley is such a skilled boxer came from.

                    He's a very durable, speedy slugger. That's what he is, it's what he's always been. He's very smart, but his boxing skills are really nothing special.

                    As for the OP, I can see that happening. I just really don't see Pac getting past Cotto. It's certainly possible, if Cotto can't catch up with Pac's foot speed it's all over, I just think that he will.

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                    • TRAVI$
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                      #30
                      Alot of people predicted the outcome of the PBF/JMM fight
                      It's also clear to see stylewise, the Pac/PBF matchup plays into Floyds hands, but Pac isn't your average fighter... if he has enough power to KO Cotto then the outcome could be harder to guess

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