Comments Thread For: Broner Seeks New Opponent For Feb. 25 BLK Prime Event; Redkach Out Due To Promotional Dispute

[Hustle]

Spence (and all PBC fighters) gave Haymon Sports the same rights that other fighters give to their promoters, the right to approve or decline fights. So although technically he does not have an official "promoter" per se, he still signed away his rights to make any decisions on his own.

And I'm not saying that is a positive thing or a negative thing, it just is the reality of the situation.

We all know Haymon is breaking the Ali act by playing manager and promoter simultaneously. But he covers his tracks by using Tom Brown as the promoter.

Spence has no say in anything, and it's laughable because he's his own promoter.

[Uncle SneakyTouch]

Man I feel bad for redkach

[Lefty0616]

There is a way of expressing opinion. You're method comes across as hating and smacks of disrespect. You can have and share any opinions that's of no concern to me.

That's a matter of your opinion. I'm not hating on Broner. I call it how I see it. He's done. He's doing whatever he can to prolong his career. You just happen to be a fan or supporter of Broner. I'm not saying anything disrespectful that hasn't been said before.

It's actually comical that you would jump of me for saying negative things about Broner as if he's a class act deservedly of respect. Trust, I'm respecting him enough.

[MastaBlasta]

Haymon is a manager. He works for Spence. mangers work for fighters. Fighters don't work for their managers. Except when it comes to Al Haymon.

The Haymon-haters and their conspiracy theories will never quit. Mostly that's just black-hate. Haymon is a successful black man.

You mis-characterize "trust" into "they have to do what he says". Per all parties involved, Al Haymon "advises" fighters, with the aim being for them to enjoy a financially rewarding carrer that also leaves them in good shape after their career.

Spence nor any other fighters advised by Haymon have expressed that they "HAVE" to do anything. The fact that they (the fighters) trust and "take" his advice is what burns your azz. So you and others continually try to paint these picures of the man as some kind of tyrant. LOL! Jealousy is a mean spouse.

Fact is, Spence and others trust his advice. They continue to say they make their own decisions (do you know better than them?). So no matter how often you and others chime in with your delusions .... these guys continue to do what they think is in THEIR OWN best interest. If that matches Haymon's advice to them or not. Unless you have some concrete proof otherwise?

And it makes sense. He's advised many into muti-millionaire careers. Any local money-managers will tell you ... if you get people REAL results that they can clearly see in the bank (and in their legacies) ... you don't need to FORCE anything on anyone. People will come looking for you, and be glad to "trust".

[MastaBlasta]

Redkach wanted the fight. His promoter seems to be kinda negligent getting him a fight ... while his time as a Boxer floats out the window every passing day. I'm all for process, contracts, and keeping it decent and in order, but maybe if the promoter had a heart .... they could accept their fee (that they didn't have to work for), and let the guy fight. They had nothing lined up for him.

Guess that would be having too much of a heart.

[Hustle]

The Haymon-haters and their conspiracy theories will never quit. Mostly that's just black-hate. Haymon is a successful black man.

You mis-characterize "trust" into "they have to do what he says". Per all parties involved, Al Haymon "advises" fighters, with the aim being for them to enjoy a financially rewarding carrer that also leaves them in good shape after their career.

Spence nor any other fighters advised by Haymon have expressed that they "HAVE" to do anything. The fact that they (the fighters) trust and "take" his advice is what burns your azz. So you and others continually try to paint these picures of the man as some kind of tyrant. LOL! Jealousy is a mean spouse.

Fact is, Spence and others trust his advice. They continue to say they make their own decisions (do you know better than them?). So no matter how often you and others chime in with your delusions .... these guys continue to do what they think is in THEIR OWN best interest. If that matches Haymon's advice to them or not. Unless you have some concrete proof otherwise?

And it makes sense. He's advised many into muti-millionaire careers. Any local money-managers will tell you ... if you get people REAL results that they can clearly see in the bank (and in their legacies) ... you don't need to FORCE anything on anyone. People will come looking for you, and be glad to "trust".

You just proved my point.

He advised charlo to turn down a 1 fight 7 million dollar deal and advised him to fight for 1 million instead.

He advised broner and thurman to turn down a 5 fight 40 million dollar ppv deal. Til this day neither guy has made 40 million in the ring after listening to their "manager"


That's not a conspiracy theory. These things actually happened. No manager with your best intentions would have you turn down career high purses for less money and more fights.

You can keep all that pro black sh#t up, but All skinfolk ain't kinfolk.....Remember that.

[MastaBlasta]

You just proved my point

No, you completely ignored the point. Whatever deal you wanna talk about ... a fighter makes HIS decision based on what he believes and who he TRUSTS. Haymon doesn't "make" these guys do anything (whether you think it is a "missed money" move, the better move, or whatever). If they trust his advise and guidance they take the advice, if they don't they don't.

People will only pass on big money if they are secure in what they have and what's in front of them. Passing doesn't make anyone a fool. They just know SOMETHING that you don't.

You just have a problem with guys trusting him ... and passing on all the fools gold that other promoters (no doubt one of your favs) are offering. Sometimes I might agree that passing on the money is a mistake. But that doesn't mean A. Haymon is "forcing" people to do anything. You just HATE that they listen and remain loyal to him. I get it.

But talking about him "controlling" anyone is libelous, bad-faith BS out of your mouth. and your frustration (and others). LoL, it must grind you on the inside eh?

[Hustle]

No, you completely ignored the point. Whatever deal you wanna talk about ... a fighter makes HIS decision based on what he believes and who he TRUSTS. Haymon doesn't "make" these guys do anything (whether you think it is a "missed money" move, the better move, or whatever). If they trust his advise and guidance they take the advice, if they don't they don't.

People will only pass on big money if they are secure in what they have and what's in front of them. Passing doesn't make anyone a fool. They just know SOMETHING that you don't.

You just have a problem with guys trusting him ... and passing on all the fools gold that other promoters (no doubt one of your favs) are offering. Sometimes I might agree that passing on the money is a mistake. But that doesn't mean A. Haymon is "forcing" people to do anything. You just HATE that they listen and remain loyal to him. I get it.

But talking about him "controlling" anyone is libelous, bad-faith BS out of your mouth. and your frustration (and others). LoL, it must grind you on the inside eh?

Al is a genius. The fighters are idiots.

They cant make max money because they have the same manager as their opponent. Nobody else does that.

Top rank makes in house fights. But nobody has the same manager. Loma has kilmas. Shakur has prince. Haney has his father...this is why top rank fighters make more than pbc guys. Bob has to actually negotiate with 2 different parties to make a fight. Al doesnt because there is "no promoter" and he manages both parties.

Former pbc fighters say you can't even speak negatively about Al. It's in the contract. So if a pbc guy isn't happy. He can't even speak on it publicly.

And if you listen, Wilder been saying it since his comeback fight last year. He just can't name Al. Because it's in his contract. But he talking about Al when he says these managers are making promises that they can't keep and these fighters are only fighting once per year. Who is he talking about? I promise you it's haymon. Everybody else fought twice last year. Pbc didnt.

[BodyBagz]

What is Khan up to these days.....

[Sheikh]

Yes and also when have you ever heard a PBC fighter thank the promoter Tom Browne or the other guy that they use I can't remember his name. They never thank the promoter. The only thank haymon. He's doing illegal Shady stuff.