What Makes a Good Chin (it’s not what you think)

[Mikeh333]

Your word picture reminds me a lot of a particular punch Canelo took from Daniel Jacobs. It was a hard punch, but he rode it well. Even though it thudded ominously, Canelo clearly has a good chin and also knows how to take it in the right way.

Another example is the third Wilder - Fury fight, where Wilder set up the exact same shot off the ropes that he would later use to knock out Helenius. Fury seemed to take a much cleaner version of that shot, and he quickly moved his forehead foreword and down so as not to take the shot on the chin. Excellent response that probably prevented a TKO loss.

Canelo is an interesting case. Very nearly knocked out by José Miguel Cotto, a journeyman at best, at 149 pounds. Yet after years of hard fighting, he was able to walk through punches from GGG and Sergey Kovalev, two of the hardest punchers at middleweight and light heavyweight. Legit? I have trouble buying it. His chin and his power got better at higher weight classes. That’s not usually the way it’s supposed to work.

[Ghost Jab]

Canelo is an interesting case. Very nearly knocked out by José Miguel Cotto, a journeyman at best, at 149 pounds. Yet after years of hard fighting, he was able to walk through punches from GGG and Sergey Kovalev, two of the hardest punchers at middleweight and light heavyweight. Legit? I have trouble buying it. His chin and his power got better at higher weight classes. That’s not usually the way it’s supposed to work.

What do you propose? I know Canelo has tested positive for PED’s, I’m just not sure how those would help his chin, save for conditioning. Meth enables people to endure incredible pain and keep fighting, but that’s something different. Please explain?

[Mikeh333]

What do you propose? I know Canelo has tested positive for PED’s, I’m just not sure how those would help his chin, save for conditioning. Meth enables people to endure incredible pain and keep fighting, but that’s something different. Please explain?

Steroids, resulting in super physiological levels of testosterone, absolutely would help someone walk through punches. Strong, fit, aggressive athletes will always be able to take more punishment than those not similarly endowed.

It happened in the UFC some years ago when they allowed fighters to “supplement” with testosterone. It was a disaster and they quickly stopped that policy.

Obviously, Canelo has only tested positive once. I am just pointing out that I think it’s strange that as he has gone up in weight, his power and his chin have increased. That’s the opposite of what you usually see.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Yeah, I often use Juan Manuel Marquez as an example for this

It’s funny because people just look at the knockdown and assume the fighter can’t take a punch because they got put down, but there’s so many factors involved in why fighter could go on the floor. Cunningham putting fury down is a good example. The only reason fury goes down from that shot it is because he was just completely squared up and if you get caught completely square like that with a hard enough shot, that there’s really no place to go apart from backwards and down, it doesn’t necessarily mean you are badly hurt.

Froch had a great chin, but he also got caught completely square and crossing his feet against Groves and hit with a shot that could only send him down on his back, although he was actually hurt from that because Groves was a big puncher and got a free shot. But if Froch wasn’t so square on, that shot probably buzzes him, but possibly doesn’t actually put him on the floor. A lot of knockdowns are just fighters putting themselves in bad positions with their balance and positioning.

A lot of people don’t seem to think about these things.

pretty much anyone can get buzzed anyway, but it’s really how you recover. I think the notion of a bad and good chin is sometimes overstated, and the bigger problem is fighters who get hit and stay hit. Although there is a few that just can’t take a shot whatsoever .

Groves timed that shot perfect man, it showed how good Froch’s chin was cause most fighters would have been sleeping after getting caught like that.

I’ve still never forgiven Howard Foster for ruining a potential ATG fight too. That’s the most p***ed off I’ve ever been at a fight.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Canelo is an interesting case. Very nearly knocked out by José Miguel Cotto, a journeyman at best, at 149 pounds. Yet after years of hard fighting, he was able to walk through punches from GGG and Sergey Kovalev, two of the hardest punchers at middleweight and light heavyweight. Legit? I have trouble buying it. His chin and his power got better at higher weight classes. That’s not usually the way it’s supposed to work.

He was probably very tight at the weight, which effected his punch resistance.

Tony Bellew is a good example, was dropped by Ajisafe, McKenzie and destroyed by Stevenson at 175. But was able to absorb shots from David Haye up at HW.

[Lance98]

Good chin is also about recovery. You can have a durable face and big heart, but if you can't recover fast enough after going down or even getting buzzed initially, you are going to get stopped or ko'ed eventually.

[Chollo Vista]

The makeup of a good chin is a strong neck/jaw and conditioning

[War Room]

I am often appalled at how little about biophysics posters on here know. They seem to think that bigger is always better in a fight. However, they could not be more wrong. In fact, size is often one of the least important factors in a fight. What is important is speed, agility, and strength. These are the qualities that determine who will win a fight, not size.

I will give an example. Evander Holyfield was slightly lighter and leaner than Mike Tyson when they fought on the 9th of November 1996, and yet he pushed him around the ring en route to a memorable and an historic win on that night.

Biophysics mon ami, I can see where this one is going.

Let me give you an example. Mike was DOA by 96'. If they had met in 92' when they should have, Holyfart would be pushin up daisies.

It's too late to read that wall of text so let me cut to the chase =---> what makes a good chin is genetics, you're born tough or you're not. Facts.

[War Room]

The makeup of a good chin is a strong neck/jaw and conditioning

What is it like being a pretender? Conditioning has nothing to do with being tough you daft cunt lmao. YDKSAB and never will.

[Chollo Vista]

What is it like being a pretender? Conditioning has nothing to do with being tough you daft cunt lmao. YDKSAB and never will.

You probably think you can photoshop yourself knocking out Deontay Wilder and that would mean you really did it LMAO