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Thurman Only Has 1 Loss To Pacquiao And Is Still A Better Win Than Anyone On Crawford's Resume

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  • #81
    Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post

    At least Spence broke his inactivity with Garcia and Ugas. Thurman returned from inactivity to fight someone coming up in weight, and then went on hiatus again. Thurman appears to have no hunger and ambition left.

    Spence/Thurman is yet another match-up that was over-marinated, and the fact that the fight isn't happening at 147
    he's glory hunting. he wants title shots or nothing.

    he's getting his title shot but if (when) he loses, it's the end of Thurman. I don't imagine him continuing to box knowing he won't ever get a title shot without grafting for it like a young bull again.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post

      he's glory hunting. he wants title shots or nothing.

      he's getting his title shot but if (when) he loses, it's the end of Thurman. I don't imagine him continuing to box knowing he won't ever get a title shot without grafting for it like a young bull again.
      Maybe I missed something, but is this fight for an interim 154lb title?

      I used to be a Thurman fan, but I hope this is the end. He's played a big role in the stagnation of the WW division.
      Last edited by kiaba360; 01-16-2023, 07:03 PM.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

        You saw the Ugas fight, that was Manny, Thurman was diminished a lot that's why Manny looked good, Ugas showed the true form.
        Manny was 42 and coming off a 2 year lay off. That's recipe for an old fighter.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by LeOoze View Post

          Manny was 42 and coming off a 2 year lay off. That's recipe for an old fighter.
          Off course, that's the reality and why Im saying Thurman was false form, the bookies knew with Thurman that's why he was betting favourite, they knew the injuries and poor showing was bringing a diminished Thurman, which means that a 42 yr old Manny can beat him and being class fighters if they competitive it can look good, but its false form which Ugas showed, its true for racehorses etc where a good run over there is not true form because the opposition was down, then they get a run on the fast track and look ordinary, which was the true form.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by djtmal View Post

            Jeff Fenech's best friend over here
            No youre not he doesn't hang with gays.

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            • #86
              Crawford is a top fighter, but as a Champion? Maybe his run of defenses is similar to Golovkin.

              Crawford has plenty of wins vs solid low end world level fighters. But I don't see any wins on his record, at High End World to Elite level.

              Porter & Brook were in all honesty, not World level fighters when Crawford fought them. Porter was half way into retirement, and Brook was damaged 'And did not really prepared optimally i.e Brook should of been training with Dominic Ingle'.

              Golovkin at-least was facing solid Low end World level fighters at their absolute peak. Such as Martin Murray, and Golovkin was beating these guys up.

              When Brook & Porter fought Spence Junior, I think for sure Brook was a High End World to Elite level fighter 'And Porter was a World level fighter'.

              At Welter Weight, I don't think Crawford has been fighting at the same level as Spence Junior.

              Danny Garcia is also a extremely underrated win, for Spence Junior to immediately jump back in the game at World level after his accident was impressive.

              Note: At Welter Weight both Thurman & Spence Junior most likely have better wins than Crawford. But being honest, you have to recognize that? This is because Crawford has stepped up to 147 pounds when all the top contenders were not at their peak etc.
              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 01-16-2023, 09:12 PM.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                Off course, that's the reality and why Im saying Thurman was false form, the bookies knew with Thurman that's why he was betting favourite, they knew the injuries and poor showing was bringing a diminished Thurman, which means that a 42 yr old Manny can beat him and being class fighters if they competitive it can look good, but its false form which Ugas showed, its true for racehorses etc where a good run over there is not true form because the opposition was down, then they get a run on the fast track and look ordinary, which was the true form.
                Manny looked a lot slower than he did against Thurman. The Thurman that fought Pac would beat the Ugas that fought Pac imo.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by LeOoze View Post

                  Manny looked a lot slower than he did against Thurman. The Thurman that fought Pac would beat the Ugas that fought Pac imo.
                  The winning form generally looks that way because it's comparing from winning to a comparison from losing across time frames, which is hard to do accurately without measuring, in racehorses they measure distance and time with a stop watch, with fighters you don't have any of that, its always an eye test and that can be distorted.

                  There is no doubt in my mind that the Thurman Manny beat is levels below the Thurman from 3 yrs earlier. it was an old version of Manny and he fought well to win in a very competitive fight, but it wasn't near the best Thurman. And in Errol's fight it will again be competitive because Thurman can fight, but Errol will break him down and run him over in the long haul.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

                    Crawford said it. Doesn't matter what I think, stop ducking.

                    What do you think about what Crawford said?
                    Provide me with a link to the quote if you’re that desperate for my opinion on it.

                    Porter is levels above Horn and you know it. It’s not even close. Porter was universally ranked top 5 or better when Crawford stopped him, that was a very impressive win.

                    Whichever way you wanna spin it, Crawford is a far more credible opponent than Keith Thurman in 2023.

                    If you were a genuine Spence fan like myself you’d wanna see him fight the best, not part time fighters chasing paydays like Thurman.

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                    • #90
                      Lmao Spencer fans are so ****** lmfao

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