Comments Thread For: Joe Joyce: Not Surprised My Name is Not Mentioned as Possible Foe For Joshua

[bullydean]

None of the fights were one sided. Especially not the second fight. At no point were the commentators pleading with the referree to stop the fight.

During the aftermath of the fight, it was acknowledged that Joshua was beat 'But he made the fights quite competitive'.

Joshua has been fighting at world to elite level since his 17th -18th professional fight. Joshua is more experienced at World & Elite level than Tyson Fury.

We don't know yet who he is going to fight next. But the fact remains is that he is now a contender 'Joshua has not got a title'.

Joshua is not going to fight a fighter at Charr's level, Hearn has stated that he wants to return with a top-15 fighter.

Joshua even now as contender, after two loses. I still expect him to return at a pretty good level, World level to High End European at the worst.

Joshua's next fight will be at a higher level than Tyson Fury's last fight, I have always been adamant of this etc.

I don't care about the commentators lol
AJ was constantly missing shots or hitting gloves while Usyk was hitting at will.
It was one sided.

Yes we don't know who he is going to fight yet Hearn and AJ keep mentioning Whyte. Not exactly a world level fighter.
It's fine that AJ is a contender but when you say "I'll fight anyone!" and then turn down 2 top contenders and probably more you're just showing everyone you're not willing to fight top fighters.

AJ won't be fighting world level opposition considering he has turned most of them down. A bit odd you're giving AJ a pass on fighting "high end European fighters" but not Fury.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I don't care about the commentators lol
AJ was constantly missing shots or hitting gloves while Usyk was hitting at will.
It was one sided.

Yes we don't know who he is going to fight yet Hearn and AJ keep mentioning Whyte. Not exactly a world level fighter.
It's fine that AJ is a contender but when you say "I'll fight anyone!" and then turn down 2 top contenders and probably more you're just showing everyone you're not willing to fight top fighters.

AJ won't be fighting world level opposition considering he has turned most of them down. A bit odd you're giving AJ a pass on fighting "high end European fighters" but not Fury.

Whyte would be a high end European level fight. It is not at a fight I am fond of but you have to be honest and admit.

Whyte vs Joshua II is great match making. Just like Chisora vs Fury III was good match making.

For the sporting purist, these are not the fights people would want Fury or Joshua to fight.

But in the professional game, and at each fighters specific stages of careers. Business wise, it is understandable why these fights will be made.

But even still, Whyte is at a higher level than Chisora 'That is a fact'.

That is the only reason why I stated Joshua's next fight could be at 'High European level'.

Regarding Joshua vs Usyk. I am giving you the universal picture, and both fights were not one sided. There have been way more one sided fights in boxing.

As I have stated before? Skill for skill Joshua vs Usyk I & II was a higher level contest than Wilder vs Fury III.

It has already been made official, Joshua in his first comeback fight will be facing a Top-15 ranked Heavyweight.

So whatever level you rate a Top-15 fighter at? That is a really good level for a comeback fight.

The reason why Joshua does not have to accept ever offer thrown his way, is quite simply because? He is still a major player in the Heavyweight game.

Anthony Joshua is a not desperate fighter mate. So stop talking as if he should be.

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this dudes chin in something else

After what he did to Parker, nobody wants him. It's like he's some kind of monster.

Hoping we see Wilder vs. Juggernaut because there's nothing quite like that in the history of boxing.

[bullydean]

Whyte would be a high end European level fight. It is not at a fight I am fond of but you have to be honest and admit.

Whyte vs Joshua II is great match making. Just like Chisora vs Fury III was good match making.

For the sporting purist, these are not the fights people would want Fury or Joshua to fight.

But in the professional game, and at each fighters specific stages of careers. Business wise, it is understandable why these fights will be made.

But even still, Whyte is at a higher level than Chisora 'That is a fact'.

That is the only reason why I stated Joshua's next fight could be at 'High European level'.

Regarding Joshua vs Usyk. I am giving you the universal picture, and both fights were not one sided. There have been way more one sided fights in boxing.

As I have stated before? Skill for skill Joshua vs Usyk I & II was a higher level contest than Wilder vs Fury III.

It has already been made official, Joshua in his first comeback fight will be facing a Top-15 ranked Heavyweight.

So whatever level you rate a Top-15 fighter at? That is a really good level for a comeback fight.

The reason why Joshua does not have to accept ever offer thrown his way, is quite simply because? He is still a major player in the Heavyweight game.

Anthony Joshua is a not desperate fighter mate. So stop talking as if he should be.

You seem to be missing the point. Nobody cares that AJ won't fight any top contenders it's the fact that he and Hearn still act like AJ is a guy looking for a challenge.

The "I'll fight anyone" talk is bs. We know AJ won't fight anyone because he's a coward.

Yes we know AJ doesn't have to fight Joyce, Wallin, or even Parker and it's fine but he will be ridiculed when he says dumb stuff. He's free to fight stiffs but we all know why he won't fight the top guys.

There's nothing left of AJ that shows he's the hyped up champ who fights anyone he thought he was.
Also I know AJ isn't desperate for a title shot which is why he's going to fight stiffs until he's handed one.

I think the Usyk vs AJ fights were way more technically superior than all Wilder vs Fury fights. The only high level skill shown was by Fury in the 2nd fight and his inside game in the 3rd.

Just because there are other one sided fights in boxing that were more one sided than the Usyk fights doesn't mean they weren't one sided. Usyk didn't beat AJ down but he easily out boxed AJ.

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AJ needs some easy touches to get some confidence back, and as we all know, Joyce would give anyone a tough night including Fury.

[PRINCEKOOL]

You seem to be missing the point. Nobody cares that AJ won't fight any top contenders it's the fact that he and Hearn still act like AJ is a guy looking for a challenge.

The "I'll fight anyone" talk is bs. We know AJ won't fight anyone because he's a coward.

Yes we know AJ doesn't have to fight Joyce, Wallin, or even Parker and it's fine but he will be ridiculed when he says dumb stuff. He's free to fight stiffs but we all know why he won't fight the top guys.

There's nothing left of AJ that shows he's the hyped up champ who fights anyone he thought he was.
Also I know AJ isn't desperate for a title shot which is why he's going to fight stiffs until he's handed one.

I think the Usyk vs AJ fights were way more technically superior than all Wilder vs Fury fights. The only high level skill shown was by Fury in the 2nd fight and his inside game in the 3rd.

Just because there are other one sided fights in boxing that were more one sided than the Usyk fights doesn't mean they weren't one sided. Usyk didn't beat AJ down but he easily out boxed AJ.

Joshua has just fought Usyk twice back to back, even when he was advised by certain folk in boxing not to take the rematch.

That takes courage. The things that you claim and say about Joshua, his behavior is not aligned with these criticisms.

You need to stop mentioning Wallin, and I know why you keep doing that. You are trying to make out that Wallin is some sort of top world level fighter 'All because he pushed and busted up Fury real good'.

Wallin is a barely a world level fighter, and when he fought Tyson Fury he was domestic to European level.

The reality of this situation is, Joshua is now a contender. He has no title, and is under no obligation to jump back in their with Wilder or Joyce in his next fight.

For me this is a interesting and exciting saga in Joshua's career. His next fight will be against a Top-15 level fighter, pretty good level to me.

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[KillaCamNZ]

I'm not surprised at all - Joyce would probably put Joshua away. At this point, Joshua is trying to find the right mix of big payday/still winnable.

[bullydean]

Joshua has just fought Usyk twice back to back, even when he was advised by certain folk in boxing not to take the rematch.

That takes courage. The things that you claim and say about Joshua, his behavior is not aligned with these criticisms.

You need to stop mentioning Wallin, and I know why you keep doing that. You are trying to make out that Wallin is some sort of top world level fighter 'All because he pushed and busted up Fury real good'.

Wallin is a barely a world level fighter, and when he fought Tyson Fury he was domestic to European level.

The reality of this situation is, Joshua is now a contender. He has no title, and is under no obligation to jump back in their with Wilder or Joyce in his next fight.

For me this is a interesting and exciting saga in Joshua's career. His next fight will be against a Top-15 level fighter, pretty good level to me.

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I mention Wallin because he easily outboxed all his opponents after Fury. If Wallin was some low level guy Whyte wouldn't have ducked him and he wouldn't be immediately dismissed by AJ and Hearn as they're searching for an easy confidence booster.
Wallin is clearly a boogeyman in the division at the moment.

Yes AJ fought Usyk back to back and then what happened? He decided to avoid tough fights.
The one sided losses he took from Usyk broke him out of his delusion.

The "courageous" fighter you just described wouldn't have openly admitted that he ducked Fury and openly declined a fight with Joyce.

Being a 'take on any challenge' fighter has nothing to do with belts it has to do with the fighters mentality and actions showing they will fight anyone.

AJ has clearly shown he isn't that guy but a coward. There's nothing wrong with that because this is boxing and any sane person would choose their health and wealth over some titles but there's no need to pretend that AJ is some tough guy who will fight anyone because we all know he will fight stiffs until he gets another title shot.

I also think it's funny that you consider "top 15" a good level then say Wallin is bad when he was ranked #4 when he fought Fury.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I mention Wallin because he easily outboxed all his opponents after Fury. If Wallin was some low level guy Whyte wouldn't have ducked him and he wouldn't be immediately dismissed by AJ and Hearn as they're searching for an easy confidence booster.
Wallin is clearly a boogeyman in the division at the moment.

Yes AJ fought Usyk back to back and then what happened? He decided to avoid tough fights.
The one sided losses he took from Usyk broke him out of his delusion.

The "courageous" fighter you just described wouldn't have openly admitted that he ducked Fury and openly declined a fight with Joyce.

Being a 'take on any challenge' fighter has nothing to do with belts it has to do with the fighters mentality and actions showing they will fight anyone.

AJ has clearly shown he isn't that guy but a coward. There's nothing wrong with that because this is boxing and any sane person would choose their health and wealth over some titles but there's no need to pretend that AJ is some tough guy who will fight anyone because we all know he will fight stiffs until he gets another title shot.

I also think it's funny that you consider "top 15" a good level then say Wallin is bad when he was ranked #4 when he fought Fury.

Wallin vs Joshua is a crap fight mate. Match Making wise, there are by far better fights out there for Joshua.

This is the professional game, which is not only a sport 'It is also show business'.

Whyte vs Joshua, Ruiz Junior vs Joshua III these are all better fights. And bigger events than Wallin vs Joshua.

Joshua did not duck Fury, how long has the negotiations been going on now with Fury & Usyk? Looks like it has been longer than 2-3 weeks.

The way team Fury and Warren dealt with Joshua during those negotiations was quite unprofessional. You don't give somebody of Joshua's resume and standard ultimatums 'You let the negotiations play out'.

But in saying that? I will admit, and be honest. I think Joshua still should of fought Fury, even if he did not get quite the deal he wanted. Just by taking the fight, he would of gained masses of credit 'But this did not happen due to the complications the negotiations'.

You are criticizing Joshua for talking. The number 1 Heavyweight in the sport, who talks the most is Tyson Fury. He is also the least experienced Champion at World & Elite level and has not faced 90% of the fighters he claims cannot beat him. Fury has not faced Joyce, Fury has not done a deal with Usyk, Fury definitely made it extremely difficult to make the fight with Joshua.

Tyson Fury does not take on all comers as a champion.

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I'm suddenly craving a Joyce vs. Wilder fight.

We need to see what happens when Joe gets hit with that right!