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  • #21
    First the guy didn’t want to fight because it would interfere with his wedding. Now he doesn’t want to fight because he doesn’t like the 65/35 split. Ramirez isn’t interesting or entertaining enough as a fighter to be this much of a diva.

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    • #22
      I like Ramirez but this is a clear duck move. He not good enough to beat Prograis but that shouldn't be the reason that this ordered fight shouldn't happen.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by 11Combos View Post
        "I like Ramirez but I completely disagree with his decision.
        You are getting more than another challenger would get. Its not what you want but it gives you a title shot.
        Not taking it but instead fighting a much easier opponent for less is what is making the sport leas enjoyable for diehard fans.
        It makes Ramirez look afraid to fight Regis even though I don’t believe he is."

        You fail to understand that Ramirez is bringing in most of the $$$. he's been a champ before & in the spotlight longer.... 75/25% is pathetic * 65/35% is still off... Ramirez said he'd do 60/40% .... would u agree that Crawford should get 65/35% for a spence fight? yea me either, even though Crawford brings NOTHING to the table... so was Crawford afraid?
        and Regis is not a boogeyman, beating a slow, confused & awkward Zepeda is not impressive who Ramirez already beat...
        Except a lot of people actually had Zepeda winning, so Regis going out and stopping him looks better.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by MulaKO View Post
          A boxer backing out of a championship fight is just bullchit and it’s happening quite often
          And people wonder what’s wrong with boxing
          Smfh
          Yeah, that is unreal to me. Boxing has been my favorite sport since the 70s. I've known since I was a teenager that boxing is the most corrupt sport, but give me a break. It amazes me that we don't get the top matchups anymore. I still remember vividly standing in my high school library with my friend, looking at the Sport's Illustrated picture of Thomas Hearns. My friend thought Hearns was going to win and I backed Leonard. I was really disappointed when Spence vs. Crawford fell apart and then a couple of fights recently were so obviously fixed and now this. Whatever though. I still love boxing and it is my favorite sport to watch. Times change. It really left an impression on me when my father told me about how they used to have to listen to the boxing on the radio in the 40s and 50s and then wait for the films to come to Hawaii on boat to watch them in the theater a month later. Compared to when I used to watch boxing every week on television multiple times a week in the 80s and 90s. These days, there isn't as much boxing to watch live, but there are so many matches from the past that I watch. Besides for watching the boxing matches themselves, I've always loved reading boxing magazines and especially the fan's letters. It's why I've spent so many years here, reading what other boxing fans opinions are about various aspects of the sport. I really appreciate the opinions of most all forum members. Happy holidays all!

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          • #25
            “If Ramirez tried and wanted it, why not call our side? You simple [sic] pivoted to an easier fight, there is no need for 1000 reasons/excuses. Simply you passed up a title opportunity. Facts.”

            These are the facts. If Ramirez really wanted to try to negotiate different terms then it's on his side to negotiate as Prograis was obviously happy to do with the WBC split.

            It doesn't look like Ramirez wants that work.

            WBC should remove Ramirez from their top ten for at least 12 months. Same with Lopez if he doesn't move forward with a mandated title fight.
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            • #26
              I find it difficult to sympathize with Ramirez. He had an opportunity to fight Zepeda for the title, but passed on it because he was getting married. Prograis stepped up, won the fight and now has some leverage. Ramirez now has to deal with the consequence of his choices. Was he complaining about the unfairness of sanctioning body splits when HE was the WBC champion? He's been the beneficiary of calculated career moves (i.e. not entering the WBSS), and avoiding Prograis is simply another one of those moves. Prograis just needs to stay active.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
                I find it difficult to sympathize with Ramirez. He had an opportunity to fight Zepeda for the title, but passed on it because he was getting married. Prograis stepped up, won the fight and now has some leverage. Ramirez now has to deal with the consequence of his choices. Was he complaining about the unfairness of sanctioning body splits when HE was the WBC champion? He's been the beneficiary of calculated career moves (i.e. not entering the WBSS), and avoiding Prograis is simply another one of those moves. Prograis just needs to stay active.
                I've never been thatimpressed with Ramirez as a fighter.

                But I wish every boxer even did 1/10 of what he has done outside the ring. Admirable.

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                • #28
                  When Top Rank had the leverage they forced Devin Haney to accept a terrible deal in order to get a title shot.

                  Now that the shoe is on the other foot Ramirez won't accept 65-35 to get a title shot.

                  Rules for thee but not for me.
                  H.B.Viper H.B.Viper likes this.

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                  • #29
                    Ramirez is being fed next to Teofimo which is probably why this happened.

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                    • #30
                      Ramirez also said his minimum is 1.5 million

                      These guys need to stop ducking

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