Comments Thread For: Spence: Crawford Went About Making Avanesyan Deal Wrong Way; Still Fight 'I Really Want'

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  • James Hunt
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    #11
    Biatch Spence is more invested in controlling the public narrative on who to blame than actually making the fight. That tells you everything.
    His obese condition last Saturday also showed how serious they were in making the fight this year or early next year.

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    • SteveM
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      #12
      Originally posted by T.M.T
      Duckford would've made around $23 million depending PPV sales should he had taken the Spence fight
      If he knew that with certainty he would have signed but according to Bud, PBC wouldn't provide clarity on the costs - and if you can't/won't control the costs then that comes off the 23 million. That's how people like Donald Trump pay so few taxes - just keeps claiming huge costs every year.

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      • Bundt
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        #13
        I can’t wait for Spence vs Garcia/Porter/Algieri in 2023. Gotta keep Spence in-house, Top Rank style. Conversely, can’t wait for Crawford vs Cobb/TBD European/Inoue. These are the 50/50 fights the public doesn’t know they need.

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        • archiemoore1
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          #14
          Many fans are dumb as hell. When two guys say they wanna fight and one side always talks about money, and trying to pay the other guy peanuts, that's obvious they don't want the damn fight. They act like divas, "we're the A side, u get peanuts", etc. Trying to negotiate with Bud based on his previous fight numbers, is BS. because Bud's previous numbers have nothing to do with this fight. Because this is the guy everyone in the world wants to see Errol fight, and vice versa, and because of that, the numbers are going to be tremendous. Who wouldn't buy that PPV? And its not just because of Errol. It's because of who he'll be facing. But when u don't wanna pay Bud well, its because u wanna create the narrative he's ducking you, when really you don't wanna fight him. Team PBC isn't ******, the fans are. PBC knows that Errol can look like superman against someone like Danny Garcia who walked in with a high guard, and slow feet and a low work rate. But let's not forget Errol has been knocked the f..k out b4. Not in the ring, but on the pavement. A knockout is a knockout whether its from a punch or hitting ur head on the concrete. Errol was knocked so cold, he lost 2 weeks worth of memory after the accident. No matter how strong he is, or how good his body looks, there's no way in hell his brain is the same after that knockout. Remember, Ugas made Errol wobble badly, and he's known more for boxing than he is for punching. So what do u think Bud gonna do to Errol? PBC knows this, and doesn't want him to fight a killer and a finisher like Bud, but of course, they can't admit that publicly, so they keep the negotiation charade going, and the offers that are super disrespectful and unrealistic, and the narrative that Bud is ducking or making things hard, while they try to find a safer guy for Errol. If they were confident in Errol winning, they would pay Bud according to what this fight is projected to do, and get a contract over to Bud, and he'd sign it and the world would see a fight for the ages. This con job is on PBC's shoulders for trying to position themselves to be able to keep damned near every dollar of this mega- event, because they know all it takes is for a guy like Bud to hit Errol with the right shot in the right spot, and its bye bye cash cow
          Last edited by archiemoore1; 12-19-2022, 10:13 AM.

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          • Uncle SneakyTouch
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            #15
            And the lie detector determined that was a lie.

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            • al-Xander
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              #16
              You could tell he's not really in a huge rush to be in this fight. Not rocket science.

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              • Thatmanox
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                #17
                Originally posted by archiemoore1
                Many fans are dumb as hell. When two guys say they wanna fight and one side always talks about money, and trying to pay the other guy peanuts, that's obvious they don't want the damn fight. They act like divas, "we're the A side, u get peanuts", etc. Trying to negotiate with Bud based on his previous fight numbers, is BS. because Bud's previous numbers have nothing to do with this fight. Because this is the guy everyone in the world wants to see Errol fight, and vice versa, and because of that, the numbers are going to be tremendous. Who wouldn't buy that PPV? And it’s not just because of Errol. It's because of who he'll be facing. But when u don't wanna pay Bud well, because u wanna create the narrative he's ducking you, when really you don't wanna fight him. Team PBC isn't ******, the fans are. PBC knows that Errol can look like superman against someone like Danny Garcia who walked in with a high guard, and slow feet and a low work rate. But let's not forget Errol has been knocked the f..k out b4. Not in the ring, but on the pavement. A knockout is a knockout whether its from a punch or hitting ur head on the concrete. Errol was knocked so cold, he lost 2 weeks worth of memory after the accident. No matter how strong he is, or how good his body looks, there's no way in hell his brain is the same after that knockout. Remember, Ugas made Errol wobble badly, and he's known more for boxing than he is for punching. So what do u think Bud gonna do to Errol? PBC knows this, and doesn't want him to fight a killer and a finisher like Bud, but of course, they can't admit that publicly, so they keep the negotiation charade going, and the offers that are super disrespectful and unrealistic, and the narrative that Bud is ducking or making things hard, while they try to find a safer guy for Errol. If they were confident in Errol winning, they would pay Bud according to what this fight is projected to do, and get a co tract to him and he'd sign it and the world would see a fight for the ages. But ur robbing the fans and its on PBC's shoulders for trying to keep every damned near every dollar of this event, and squeezing Bud and trying to make sure he can't feed his family
                It’s easy being a “killer and finisher” when you fight cab level opposition. Also a powder puncher dropped bud. Nice try.

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                • wrecksracer
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                  #18
                  I don't think Spence will ever fight at 147 again.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by dan-b
                    Keith Idec knows it's acceptable journalistic practice to edit out all the "you knows" when quoting someone so it's difficult not to conclude that they've been left in to subtly mock Spence.

                    This whole saga is boring now. I'm fine with them not fighting anyway, it probably wouldn't look that much different to Bradley - Alexander as a spectacle, i.e. anticlimactic.
                    Keith knows what he's doing. And it speaks to boxingscene for letting him write such a poor article

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                    • hhh1200
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by 4truth
                      Crawford said he wanted to fight before the end of the year. 4 months of “negotiation” and it was apparent that is wasn’t happening. How many more months is Crawford expected to waste this year before he takes another fight?
                      Keef sits out 3 years. Is that asking too much of Crawford? Or Broner said 18 months and another 9 months before a fight. That's only 27 months.

                      Boxing community is full of clowns with the Crawford nonsense at this point.

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