Comments Thread For: Haney, Concerned With Ramadan, At Odds With Top Rank Over Lomachenko Fight Date

[Boro]

I respect your point but I think it's a bad analogy. There is no month long observance in Chrsitianity otherwise people who aren't devout Christians would skip that too. Yeah sure they can be non-devout but still show up to Church for a few hours every few months or whatever, because it's not a big commitment, but if they had to observe something for months, then they wouldn't do it. I assume most ******s would either consider themselves a non-observant ******, and not worry about Ramadan, or they would consider themselves observant, and observe Ramadan. With that said, I'm sure there are exceptions, like with anything, but I'm just skeptical about Haney. He says "Inshallah" in an aggressive, "F you all" kind of tone after beating on other men. He just seems to be marketing to the crowd to try to gain a fanbase. What proof do we have that he's ever observed Ramadan before? I don't trust Haney is a real ****** any more than I trust Tyson Fury is a real Christian. For all we know they are undercover Jesuits or undercover Jooz or undercover satanists or atheists or any other group in private, and they just pretend to be something else publicly. It's actually super easy to do if you have the support network to pull it off, people around you who are doing the same thing and sworn to keep it all a secret together.

But OK, let's pretend we knew for sure Haney actually was a ******. We don't, but let's entertain the idea for the sake of exploring the question completely. Even if Haney is a ****** and even if he does normally observe Ramadan, so what? He can still skip it this year to fight Loma, and then next year he can go back to observing it again. Why not cheat Ramadan for this fight just like you cheated your observance to put Only Fans on your trunks for another fight? What's the difference? If you're inconsistent with something that big already, then it just comes off as an excuse, or marketing tactics, to say there's no way you can do it here too. You've already demonstrated you are not concerned with strict observance all the time, so why are you making a big deal of it now, other than to get headlines and trick people into becoming your fans? Anyone who has been around this dirty game of Boxing for long enough will know to be skeptical of all this stuff, same as Tyson Fury and Ryan Garcia's "we're fighting for mental health awareness" claims and so many other things.

It's just another form of virtue-signalling. "Support me because I stand up for popular causes!" That's all it is. Meanwhile their actions are usually the exact opposite of the virtues they claim to support with their words. Stop giving them the benefit of the doubt. Fool me twice and all. These people thrive off of fans misplaced and naive trust.

Lent is/was 40 days of fasting and abstinence, where do you think the ******s got it from?

[TonyRespectful]

Sounding like a big duck ! Haney fought Linares May 29,2021.Ramadan was April12 to May 12.Seventeen days after Ramadan. Also fought May 25,2019.Ramadan was May 6 to June 3.So he fought during Ramadan! Stop ducking !

[Lance98]

No one can debunk the existence of fairies, Bigfoot, elves, god and millions of other primitive folklore either. Do you think that people should act as if these things exist? You sound like a religious idiot who’s easily offended just because others aren’t easily brainwashed like you are. Keep drinking the Koolaid with the rest of your religious cult. I’m not going to waste my time trying to convert a cult member into a rational person who uses reason to assess what he or she should believe. Simple minds should just keep following the herd because it’s easier to live like that than it is to think logically.

Haha, you actually think that I am religious just because I posted what you don't like to hear? I am just open-minded if anything. God's existence and non-existence are not proven, yet God is something that is consistent with many religions/beliefs around the world unlike stuff like big foot, elves, etc so your analogy is weak as f.

[SimpleTouchee]

What does that have to do with getting the shot though, none of the other fighters were even offered championship fights in their second fight, lose, and offered another one.

Ok...

[SimpleTouchee]

Exactly, but I'm sure if you would have asked Floyd, Shakur, or any other great amateur and Olympian if they would like to fight for a championship in their third professional fight, they would have jumped at the opportunity. But, the opportunity wasn't given was it?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...debut/2954955/ This is what I'm talking about. THE ONLY REASON WHY HE WAS GETTING TITLE SHOT

[Rebelrbg]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...debut/2954955/ This is what I'm talking about. THE ONLY REASON WHY HE WAS GETTING TITLE SHOT

Yeah, I knew that, but none of that was done for anyone else. As the article said, he had Arum guarantee it in his contract, that he would fight for a championship in his second professional fight. Arum would've rejected anyone else that did that, because he wouldn't have wanted to risk the money to make it happen and called them arrogant. But, he did it for Loma, and bought him a fancy apartment and a Mercedes Benz. He even paid for another title shot his next fight, after Loma lost the championship fight in his second. Handheld!!

[Rebelrbg]

Sounding like a big duck ! Haney fought Linares May 29,2021.Ramadan was April12 to May 12.Seventeen days after Ramadan. Also fought May 25,2019.Ramadan was May 6 to June 3.So he fought during Ramadan! Stop ducking !

How is it ducking when he's stating that the fight should happen sooner rather than later. He's the undisputed champion and Loma has no belt. We have a substantial amount of time between now and March, which is when he wants the fight to happen. He clearly wants to be in top physical condition and have a perfect training camp for a fight this big; undisputed championship against a man he's been calling out for years.

[Rebelrbg]

People much rather watch Lomachenko over Haney with all his hugging and crap competition. Lomachenko’s style is much easier to sell. Lomachenko has also been in more high profile fights so of course he’s more popular. Even in his loss vs Lopez, Lomachenko looked way more exciting than Haney ever has.

Undisputed doesn’t make you a big draw or even liked by fans. Especially when you have a reputation of being an email champion and jabbing and hugging your way to victory.

He doesn't have to be liked in order to be respected. The fact is he holds all the belts and SHOULD be in position to call the shots. Loma has no leverage in calling for it to sooner or later, he's being given the opportunity for a shot at undisputed.

[Rebelrbg]

I'm not denying his status as undisputed but why was this never brought up before in the past? It's not like Haney has never fought during Ramadan before, and it takes 2 to fight you can't lack respect for Lomachenko and force him to fight earlier, it's what works for both fighters.

Sounds like Haney is already using an excuse for his weight he should just move up and let those titles be up for grabs then he already made a defense.

It wasn't brought up in the past because he wasn't undisputed and he wasn't fighting against a top name in Loma. Haney was still fighting back then for leverage and to get to the position he's currently in. Now that he's gained the position, he's not being respected. Its not as if he's asking for something unreasonable, by March Haney and Loma will have been out of the ring for 5 or 6 months. If he wants it in March, then that should be it.

[The Big Dunn]

You are acting like Haney has been a devout ****** since his birth, c'mon man you know it's a façade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiruxUd33Hk

I’m doing no such thing. Don’t use me to justify your absolutely disgraceful opinion.

You’re doubting this for reasons only you know. Many adults change their religion as they get older.

Haney has done everything honorably in his pursuit of the undisputed title.