TOP 10 WELTERWEIGHTS: By Height and Reach

[Fights]

Truthfully alot of fans judge size on those things but I never do. I hate it when people argue about it too. I think size in boxing is just one single thing and thats weight and more specificaly fight night & walk around weight. The other things matter but to me they are just natural attributes. Like alot of guys try to say that someone is clearly the bigger fighter just because there tall and or have a long wing span but I always tell people to look at Paul Williams & Mike Tyson. The point is its the weight thats the main thing. I think its totally fair for a 6'5 guy to fight a 5'5 guy if they both weigh the exact same thing. I think its a totally even fight and everyone has there advantages but the one single advantage that matters in boxing is the weight because people sometimes gain like 20 pounds after a weigh-in why another guy may not be able to gain any

Beleive it or not Height and Reach matters. Shorter Boxers winning against very, very tall ones are rare.

See my other thread on this:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295897

[El Angel]

Cotto's arms are incredibly short. That's why I don't think he can outbox Manny. He can't Manny at end of a jab because his reach is so short. They're going to have to fight toe to toe at some point.

[Fights]

also, the reach thing can be disputed. Your list was based on wing span but alot of people think the one arm reach thing is more accurate. Floyd has freakishly long arms but a pretty skinny back so his wing span may not be great but he has a great reach

So you agree then that Mayweather is NOT SMALL Welterweight.

[Jim Jeffries]

also, the reach thing can be disputed. Your list was based on wing span but alot of people think the one arm reach thing is more accurate. Floyd has freakishly long arms but a pretty skinny back so his wing span may not be great but he has a great reach

I still have trouble believing that Floyd and Wlad's arm length from armpit to the end of the fist, are both 26", though you could definitely tell he had a huge reach advantage over Marquez.

So you agree then that Mayweather is NOT SMALL Welterweight.

Floyd has tiny hands and a very light frame. If you go by what he weighs in the ring though, yes, he is a small WW. But seeing as how he has no desire to fight at 140, he's a WW nonetheless.

[Fights]

I still have trouble believing that Floyd and Wlad's arm length from armpit to the end of the fist, are both 26", though you could definitely tell he had a huge reach advantage over Marquez.

Floyd has tiny hands and a very light frame. If you go by what he weighs in the ring though, yes, he is a small WW. But seeing as how he has no desire to fight at 140, he's a WW nonetheless.

Floyd IS welterweight. He could not even make 144 lbs. anymore.

[Fights]

I still have trouble believing that Floyd and Wlad's arm length from armpit to the end of the fist, are both 26", though you could definitely tell he had a huge reach advantage over Marquez.

You think? Let's just say that if they both simultaneously punch each other from the distance, Marquez would not be able to land anything because of Floyd's reach.

Plain and simple Marquez is not welterweight.

[BennyST]

Truthfully alot of fans judge size on those things but I never do. I hate it when people argue about it too. I think size in boxing is just one single thing and thats weight and more specificaly fight night & walk around weight. The other things matter but to me they are just natural attributes. Like alot of guys try to say that someone is clearly the bigger fighter just because there tall and or have a long wing span but I always tell people to look at Paul Williams & Mike Tyson. The point is its the weight thats the main thing. I think its totally fair for a 6'5 guy to fight a 5'5 guy if they both weigh the exact same thing. I think its a totally even fight and everyone has there advantages but the one single advantage that matters in boxing is the weight because people sometimes gain like 20 pounds after a weigh-in why another guy may not be able to gain any

I think you'll find that most boxers would prefer to have a height and reach advantage than a weight advantage. Height and reach in boxing is easily just as important, even more so to be honest. Unless it is a huge weight difference, but it rarely is today, the height and reach of a fighter is what will win him the fight. If you weigh in ten pounds more than your opponent but have very similar height, reach and physical attributes (speed, power etc) then it is a big advantage, but, if it's just a few pounds, which it nearly always is then the height and reach will always be the bigger factor in play.

Why do you think so many fighters try to come down in weight? It's not to get a weight advantage. It's to get a height and reach advantage ie. be the bigger guy because that is what can win you fights if you know how to use it. If you have a reach and height advantage but weigh a little less, you still have the biggest advantage.

That's boxing. Height and reach are better attributes than weight, unless it is hugely significant. Though it is very rare now to have those fights which one guy is ten pounds more, but five pounds more really doesn't end up meaning much if you're still the guy with the height and reach advantage. You can use it better than simply weighing a few pounds more than the other guy.

[RightCross94]

I think you'll find that most boxers would prefer to have a height and reach advantage than a weight advantage. Height and reach in boxing is easily just as important, even more so to be honest. Unless it is a huge weight difference, but it rarely is today, the height and reach of a fighter is what will win him the fight. If you weigh in ten pounds more than your opponent but have very similar height, reach and physical attributes (speed, power etc) then it is a big advantage, but, if it's just a few pounds, which it nearly always is then the height and reach will always be the bigger factor in play.

Why do you think so many fighters try to come down in weight? It's not to get a weight advantage. It's to get a height and reach advantage ie. be the bigger guy because that is what can win you fights if you know how to use it. If you have a reach and height advantage but weigh a little less, you still have the biggest advantage.

That's boxing. Height and reach are better attributes than weight, unless it is hugely significant. Though it is very rare now to have those fights which one guy is ten pounds more, but five pounds more really doesn't end up meaning much if you're still the guy with the height and reach advantage. You can use it better than simply weighing a few pounds more than the other guy.

I don't know. I think it depends on the style of the fighter, whether height/reach or weight trouble them more. As a boxer personally, I much prefer sparring/fighting taller guys, just what i'm used to and giving away reach and height is nothing to me. In fact I sometimes have trouble with short fast guys.

How much a weight disadvantage affects you depends heavily on the styles. A pressure fighter will find it harder to give away weight than a boxer type who uses the ring and has a tight defence.

[BattlingNelson]

Truthfully alot of fans judge size on those things but I never do. I hate it when people argue about it too. I think size in boxing is just one single thing and thats weight and more specificaly fight night & walk around weight. The other things matter but to me they are just natural attributes. Like alot of guys try to say that someone is clearly the bigger fighter just because there tall and or have a long wing span but I always tell people to look at Paul Williams & Mike Tyson. The point is its the weight thats the main thing. I think its totally fair for a 6'5 guy to fight a 5'5 guy if they both weigh the exact same thing. I think its a totally even fight and everyone has there advantages but the one single advantage that matters in boxing is the weight because people sometimes gain like 20 pounds after a weigh-in why another guy may not be able to gain any

So according to you the only thing that matters is fight-night weight and walk around weight. Both of which is numbers we know nothing about. This must mean that the only thing we know for a fact which is the weigh-in weight, the weight that boxings divisions is all about, is unimportant.

I got a question for you: "Can I have some of what you're smoking?"

[Boricua6]

Cotto has beatin' 3 of the 9 bigger WWs - and the "loss" was a war to the end; the point: he's a badass!