Why do people rate Anthony Joshua higher than Deontay Wilder?

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    #31
    I think everyone has got there first.

    AJ has proved himself at a level with a reasonable level of competition.

    Wilder is 0-2-1 (or, in reality, 0-3) against the only decent opponent he's faced.

    Whether he beats AJ or not in a fight is purely conjecture at this stage. We have no idea how good Wilder is or isn't right now, as there's very little benchmark to rate him against. We know he can punch, but that's about it.

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    • hugh grant
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      #32
      Josh won't get credit for beating man coming off 2 ko losses. But if your then saying wilder is favkurite, you better then give Josh credit for winning.
      Is that too abstract thinking?

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      • QueensburyRules
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        #33
        Originally posted by W1LL
        Deontay Wilder is still a top 3 Heavyweight, AT LEAST!

        Tyson Fury is obviously #1, but then what?

        You rate Oleksandr Usyk at #2? Questionable, but okay.

        But then who is #3? Anthony Joshua? He got embarrassingly exposed by a much smaller man? Deontay Wilder was humbled by the Gypsy King, but at least he went out on his shield, was a live dog until the end every time!

        How the fook does AJ doing an Audley Harrison impression, against a man who fought at Middleweight in the Amateurs, rank higher than Wilder going down in a gunfight with the Gypsy King?

        The answer is, it doesn't. And don't forget, AJ 'No Mas'ed against Andy Ruiz Jr.

        1. Tyson Fury
        2. Oleksander Usyk*
        3. Deontay Wilder
        - - Usyk hold all the titles that count, and he fought #1 AJ twice to get and keep them.

        Flubber and Deyonce were boxing's low hanging, spoiling fruit.That's why they fought each other for peanuts while each ducking AJ riches twice or more.

        Does U even follow boxing?

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        • SN!PER
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          #34
          The Bronze Bomber vs. The Bodybuilder coming to Africa in 2024

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          • Uncle SneakyTouch
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            #35
            Originally posted by Outwest Exp 355
            Because Wilder is PBC which is associated with Floyd Mayweather, who is the most hated man in boxing. Every opinion in boxing is based on someone’s agenda. It is by far the hardest sport to ever get a honest assessment in.
            Straight to victim mode again amazing

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            • MikeyMike100
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              #36
              3 titles to Wilders 1. Beat better opposition.

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              • PhillyShellSlick
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                #37
                Even I'll admit Joshua faced better competition while champion. Hand 2 Hand though, Wilder obliterates what remains of Joshua's interest in the sport.

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                • Dubblechin
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                  #38
                  Deontay Wilder is better than Anthony Joshua and he'll be remembered as such.

                  Wilder stopped every man he faced in a 12-year pro career except for one (Tyson Fury - but he dropped Fury four times in three fights).

                  Wilder was WBC Heavyweight Champion for five years.

                  Wilder made 10 successful WBC title defenses ... including one over Tyson Fury ... which puts Wilder fifth all-time with the most successful title defenses.

                  Wilder is one of the most successful defending heavyweight champions in history.

                  The garbage that Joshua has faced better fighters is just that - garbage. Tyson Fury would be the best opponent Joshua ever faced by a mile. Wlad wasn't better than Fury. Wilder successfully defended his WBC belt for the eighth time against Fury and floored him twice in that one. And if Wilder fights Ruiz next, about half of Joshua's title defenses will have come against guys Wilder also faced - Molina, Breazeale, Ruiz.

                  It's really not that much of a contest anymore. The wheels of the Joshua marketing machine have really come off, while Wilder's still blasting out guys and is scheduled to compete in eliminators.

                  Meanwhile, Hearn is trying to find someone Joshua can look good against to build up his confidence. Joshua knows he isn't as good as Fury or Usyk. So he's kind of lost.



                  Last edited by Dubblechin; 12-04-2022, 11:37 PM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Uncle SneakyTouch

                    Straight to victim mode again amazing
                    Go login as your other alt and check the posts from years past. It will tell you a lot.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

                      Curious, who did he miss that’s that good?
                      I mean, his best win is old Ortiz?

                      Even Joe Joyce has better win in Parker.

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