Can we just admit AJ ducked Wilder all these years?

[just the facts]

Wilder aka mr 75k? Wilder should leave his promoter, get on two knees and suck AJ dry before taking 10% of the split if he really wants that fight.

Due to your inability to view anything remotely involving PBC or any of its fighters with even a sliver of objectivity, your opinion means less than nothing.

[just the facts]

He fought a fight out of shape cokehead the first time and felt since he almost stopped him the first time he would stop him the second time. Third time was a pride thing after getting severely dominated the second time. Wilder probably figured he couldn't do much worst after the sequel.

But no matter how much you want to rewrite history, the first fight was a cherry pick gone horribly wrong.

So fighting the undefeated lineal heavyweight champion of the world was a “cherry pick gone horribly wrong”. Replay that in your mind……..it’ll come to you…….that’s right, not a smart statement

[SilverMiles]

So fighting the undefeated lineal heavyweight champion of the world was a “cherry pick gone horribly wrong”. Replay that in your mind……..it’ll come to you…….that’s right, not a smart statement

He fought a fat slob coming off a 2 1/2 year layoff who admitted to spending his time partying, doing drugs, battling depression, and eating to his hearts desire. There's a reason the "Lineal" champion was an underdog going into the first fight.

[Dubblechin]

Honestly, I think Joshua and Wilder both wanted to face each other at various times, but BOTH have been talked out of it at different times by the companies and folks behind the scenes who have their livelihoods tied to them.

You could point to various offers on both sides that seemed legit that were dismissed by the other side. When one promoter is serious about it, it seems the other guy's promoter isn't. When one fighter is, it seems the other fighter isn't.

PBC and Matchroom have worked on a lot of cards together. Hell, half of Joshua's title fights came against PBC opponents (Martin, Molina, Breazeale, Ruiz twice). So the companies can work together easily when they choose to.

But even signing with the same promoter doesn't guarantee anything. Guys like Dillian Whyte and Luis Ortiz signed with Matchroom for the express purpose of getting a fight with Anthony Joshua (Whyte signed after his first fight with Joshua hoping signing with Eddie would get him a rematch), and even though they signed with Hearn ... Eddie still wouldn't give them the Joshua fight. So Ortiz went to the PBC and fought Wilder twice. Seven years after signing with Matchroom, Whyte still can't get his rematch with Joshua.

I think DAZN's offer to Wilder was legit, and DAZN had the power to make that fight had DAZN signed Wilder, but that would've damaged the folks at PBC who wanted to keep their own thing going. So Wilder was convinced not to sign.

Despite that, it seemed the PBC and Matchroom were close in 2019 when Wilder knocked out Breazeale and Joshua was prepping for his US debut, but Joshua lost. When Joshua regained his belts, Wilder lost to Fury.

Had Joshua won his rematch with Usyk, I think we'd be looking at Joshua-Wilder next in 2023.

But Joshua lost and had a meltdown. Now Wilder is feeling good about himself after his win over Helenius, but Joshua is shattered, so Hearn isn't going to put Joshua in with Wilder next year, even though Deontay is calling for it.

If they wait until 2024, Wilder be close to 40.

It's looking less and less like we'll ever see them in the ring.

[QueensburyRules]

Can we just admit AJ ducked Wilder all these years?

Joshua always knew Wilder would KO him & end his career early so just ducked him for many years... until he lost to Ruiz & Usyk.

- - What grade they set U back this year Oscar?

AJ fights in Big $$$ division. Deyonce and Blubber are are the Dung Beetles who follow every big man in history scavenging his generous droppings.

[hugh grant]

Nah it's more likely wilderbducked. Josh has better resume and people on joshs cv got 50% chance to beat wilder ie, ruiz, whyte, parker, usyk etc etc

[QueensburyRules]

So fighting the undefeated lineal heavyweight champion of the world was a “cherry pick gone horribly wrong”. Replay that in your mind……..it’ll come to you…….that’s right, not a smart statement

- - U proving yet again U lineal toilet scrubber. Better to believe in tooth fairies, leprechauns and rainbow taffyboys.

[just the facts]

He fought a fat slob coming off a 2 1/2 year layoff who admitted to spending his time partying, doing drugs, battling depression, and eating to his hearts desire. There's a reason the "Lineal" champion was an underdog going into the first fight.

Do you actually believe that?

[just the facts]

- - U proving yet again U lineal toilet scrubber. Better to believe in tooth fairies, leprechauns and rainbow taffyboys.

Is the one poster here who puts any credibility into the opinion of this idiot?

[champion4ever]

It certainly looks that way.