Bradley/Peterson Resolved: WBO Rules 60/40 Split

[TOBYLEE1]

Bradley fought Witter for the title, unification vs Holt and a bout vs Campbell, if you ask me he taking solid opponents and is more than a lot of other champions have been doing lately. Bradley has enough speed to beat Peterson, don't think Peterson has enough power to hold Bradley off. Fight worth watching

[DC Fight Fan]

Why do you think that, Samurai? It's a huge step up in class for Peterson. I admit that sometimes fighter win fights that are a huge step up in class, but more often than not, they lose. I prefer to see prospects fight fringe contenders first, rather than jumping straight from fighting out and out journeymen to the #1 rated fighter in the division not counting Pacquiao, with no learning fights in between. Ortiz is an example of how that can backfire with even the most talented of prospects.

Peterson is plenty experienced in relation to Bradley. Bradley's only real experience advantage is in spotlight fights. But I don't think the stage will bother Peterson at all. I have Peterson by UD or late round stoppage from an accumulation of body punches. Peterson hooks the body like no other young fighter out there IMO.

[Dave Rado]

That doesn't take away the fact that the lineal champion at 130 moved up to fight the lineal champion at 140 at the 140lb weight limit and knocked him out in the 2nd round. Whether Freddie Roach realizes the importance of such is nonconsequential. Roach is a damn fine trainer and when Parkinson's finally wins it'll be a sad day for boxing, but his opinion on who the champions are and what titles are involved carries relatively no credence. I honestly don't believe Manny will ever fight again at 140, but he has yet to say this definitively and he has yet to retire, so he still is the 140lb champion. No one outside the ring can take that away from him except for himself or God, and you already know I rest my laurels on linear champions. It truly makes being a boxing fan significantly easier (except for the light heavyweight division, ***ing Zsolt Erdei) and the sanctioning body belts just help determine woh the top contedners are, no need to try and figure who holds what ******ed version of the WBA trinket title or who Jose Sulaiman is trying to blow to wear his belt or who he is pissed at because he isn't taxing them for large sums of cash that he earned or has any right to. MMA (UFC) has two things on boxing that keeps in at the forefront of mainstream coverage; one is ****e TV and great self-advertising; two; fans know who the champions are because usually (minus the Frank Mir interim champion title) there is only 1 champion per weightclass. And they have one thing that boxing doesn't and it signifcantly helps them, no sanctioning bodies competing with one another for money to confuse the fans. Clarity is everythinig for niche sports and that what boxing is at the moment. A really big niche sport, but any sport that doesn't have a fanstasy draft is now a niche sport in America.

You're missing my point in mentioning Roach. He is one of the most influential people in the sport and he's the trainer of the boxer you were referring to. If Pac's trainer doesn't acknowledge the existence of the lineal title, Pac probably doesn't either - and he has certainly never publicly talked about it.

For there to be the sort of clarity you're talking about, people (outside of hardcore fans) have to know who the lineal champions are, and to care about who they are. Outside of hardcore boxing fans like you and me, that isn't happening. Most boxers don't care - if they did, there wouldn't be so many vacant titles, because the #1 and #2 contenders would square off more frequently. Most promoters don't care (or they would ensure that people fought for the vacant titles). Most trainers don't care. Most of the media doesn't even know what a lineal title is. The UK's premier boxing magazine, Boxing Monthly, doesn't recognise the existence of lineal or Ring titles. None of the boxing correspondents of any of the UK newspapers recognise them either. Very few US journalists (outside of The Ring and boxingscene) do either. HBO and Showtime rarely acknowledges them. For the lineal titles to provide the clarity you're talking about, that needs to change.

[flem1]

Bradley is just a wanna be floyd, he sucks ass

What a dumbass...

[Dave Rado]

Peterson is plenty experienced in relation to Bradley. Bradley's only real experience advantage is in spotlight fights. But I don't think the stage will bother Peterson at all. I have Peterson by UD or late round stoppage from an accumulation of body punches. Peterson hooks the body like no other young fighter out there IMO.

Bradley has fought and beaten three genuine top 10 Jnr Welterweights. Since turning professional, Peterson has only fought journeymen. You can't judge someone's hook by how it looks against journeymen. If you could, Ortiz would have beaten Maidana easily, Lacy would still be a world champion, and Roy Jones would have beaten Calzaghe.

And LOL at you predicting a stoppage, when Peterson has only stopped 13 fighters out of 27 journeymen faced, and Bradley has proved himself to be exceptionally durable.

[HeartAttack]

You're missing my point in mentioning Roach. He is one of the most influential people in the sport and he's the trainer of the boxer you were referring to. If Pac's trainer doesn't acknowledge the existence of the lineal title, Pac probably doesn't either - and he has certainly never publicly talked about it.

For there to be the sort of clarity you're talking about, people (outside of hardcore fans) have to know who the lineal champions are, and to care about who they are. Outside of hardcore boxing fans like you and me, that isn't happening. Most boxers don't care - if they did, there wouldn't be so many vacant titles, because the #1 and #2 contenders would square off more frequently. Most promoters don't care (or they would ensure that people fought for the vacant titles). Most trainers don't care. Most of the media doesn't even know what a lineal title is. The UK's premier boxing magazine, Boxing Monthly, doesn't recognise the existence of lineal or Ring titles. None of the boxing correspondents of any of the UK newspapers recognise them either. Very few US journalists (outside of The Ring and boxingscene) do either. HBO and Showtime rarely acknowledges them. For the lineal titles to provide the clarity you're talking about, that needs to change.

I understood your point. Manny is at a status where titles of any nature are generally void comparatively to who he's fighting period. You are absolutely right about how the recognition of lineal titles or ring champions. for the most part the Ring follows the lineal path, but not always. I wouldn't really expect Boxing Monthly to follow the Ring's ratings or champions because they are competitors even if on a small scale. A lot of people at Boxingscene has ties to The Ring and quite honestly, I don't follow any other websites besides F.ightnews. For the fact that I find most of them crap period and wouldn't expect them to know what lineal means in any sense of the term. It would take an organized effort by the media to really start to clarify things. Most casual fans don't know how many sanctioning bodies there are let alone all the letters involved in them, so the lineal titles aren't too far off in that sense. HBO and Showtime are more promoters than media outlets and Showtime will delcare whatever junior interim quasi eliminator title fight as a championship fight. Al Bernstein is a great boxing mind and at fights I love talking to the guy, but I hate listening to him commentate because of what Showtime makes them say, they are forced to be bias. A lot needs to change period to get some form of clarity, and being an 8 time champion in 3 divisions, is such a load of **** and throws fans off. There are some damn good fights between top contenders and it's ok if they're called just that, it doesn't ake away from the fight. Like Clottey/Cotto, two of the top 5 welterweights and it was a good fight period. These catchweight fights aren't bad, but it's not what we need, at least not such big differences in size. And actually, I would prefer if Juan Manuel Marquez stay at lightweight and take on the remaining contenders there, Katsidis, Funeka/Guzman winner, Valero, or possibly khan or Campbell at 140. It's almost impossible to get clarity the way things are right now, but if boxing was sans the sanctioning bodies and the money that they subtract (yes they add some to, to lesser known fighters) and the watering down of the term champion and thus lowering their future paydays then boxing and boxers would see an increase in notoriety, popularity, respect, and media coverage.

[Matt Marvelous]

Peterson is decent, but Bradley is better. Desert Storm wins the decision here.