Did Bud duck Pacquiao?

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  • djtmal
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    #21
    Originally posted by Roadblock

    Im on the fence, I can see Spence winning a late stoppage and I can also see Bud stopping him by 6, its a clash of styles where either guy can win it, as fighters, I like them both.
    When they called your boy to fight either Spence or Crawford the phone kept saying, no longer in service

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    • Roadblock
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      #22
      Originally posted by BuckWheater321

      You really sound silly bro. I don't think any amount of texts would change what you want to believe. Let's just leave it at that. Manny ducked Crawford if you want that.
      It's a fair explanation, I don't think you have an answer so its easier to bail, that's cool I get it, I didn't say he ducked Crawford and I didn't say he was scared they are your words, I said I don't think he was keen because of the style of Bud, that's professional matchmaking that's what they do, fan talk is scared and duck I never use those terms with elite fighters its not how they think.
      Last edited by Roadblock; 11-21-2022, 03:55 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Roadblock

        I cant see it not how Manny looked with Ugas and Spence ran him over, just too big and strong too much pressure and Manny was done adds up to all bad for Manny, but you can never write off a guy as good as Manny was.
        styles make fight!

        spence is more of a come forward fighter than ugas..

        we will never know how the fight will play out, it's your opinion vs mine and nobody is right here because spence pulled out not manny!

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        • Roadblock
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          #24
          Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

          styles make fight!

          spence is more of a come forward fighter than ugas..

          we will never know how the fight will play out, it's your opinion vs mine and nobody is right here because spence pulled out not manny!
          All good its one of those we will never know deals, injuries happen and fans will make all kinds of assumptions based on anything from new shoes to a change of diet, I try and look at the broader bigger picture.

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          • paulf
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            #25
            AT THE TIME, Bud made it clear in a number of interviews Pacquiao wasn't really on his radar. He wasn't going to pray to win the Pacquiao sweepstakes that every other fighter was dying to win.

            At the time, it was looked at as surprising and interesting. Nothing more than that.

            Looking back now and seeing the choices Bud has made, it's clear the guy just makes terrible decisions. If he'd fought Pacquiao - win or lose - he'd have ascended to the mainstream and wouldn't be the PPV dud he is today. And the fact that he's not a box-office draw is ultimately the reason they couldn't get the Spence fight done, so it's all connected.

            The man is just really ****** and makes bad decisions. Plain and simple.
            Last edited by paulf; 11-21-2022, 05:00 PM.

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            • just the facts
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              #26
              Originally posted by RGJTMMRDCMJRJSM
              spence faked an eye injury after the whole world saw he was having a horrible camp
              Dumb, was the surgery fake too?

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                #27
                Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

                That's what you think, I feel pac would have done better against Spence. Style makes fight and we will never know the truth since Spence pulled out, not Manny!
                While you’re certainly entitled to your opinion, I can’t realistically see it going that way.

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                • MikeyMike100
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                  #28
                  Did Bud duck Pacquiao?
                  This but the opposite
                  ​This was in 2016. When Crawford was at 140. When he moved up in 2018 he fought Horn immediately.

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                  • mxtali
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                    #29
                    Spence was willing to go to 164 for a Canelo fight and Bud wouldn’t budge from 140 for an easier on paper, Pacquiao fight. Bud refused to take a pay cut during the pandemic. I think it’s clear who the bigger diva is in negotiations

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                    • The D3vil
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                      #30
                      Bob Arum admitted that he killed Crawford/Pacquiao because Bud would've mauled him.

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