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  • Neither guy wants the fight. Both guys want to keep taking easy fights to pad their records and get easy paydays. **** both of them and anyone rooting for these guys is an idiot and is the reason Boxing is the way it is. Embarassing

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    • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

      Here is another one for you I can put up 50 of them if you want, Bud fckd up big time, and he is trying not to drown in his contradictions.


      Shameful. Just shameful lmao. Card pulled!!!

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      • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

        Apparently, that was guaranteed says Espinoza, they offered 8 guarantee to Bud who wanted 20 , he dropped to 15, they went from 8 to 10 and Bud wouldn't budge from 15, this was part of the reason TC was called out to drop the contract and prove who is lying, he refused.

        Nothing concrete has came out only Buds word against a group saying their version , all I know is Bud was double dealing under the table and is looking like he didn't want the fight.

        Cant compare Canelo at all, he is the face of boxing and pulls massive revenue, just like Floyd and just like Oscar, Bud and Spence is nowhere near the same as those guys, you watch Bud pull real poor numbers next, Canelo was getting 350k buys with Callum Smith and Angulo.
        You got a link where Espinoza says this?

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        • Originally posted by Hustle View Post

          You got a link where Espinoza says this?
          I,ll find it or a reputable person that Steven said it too, point is its out there, the only thing out there from Bud is Bud who could easily prove it by showing the clause in the contract but for some reason he doesn't want to do that, reminds me of Schaefer showing the clause that proved the drug testing was in the first draft sent to Team Pac, its not hard to do it can only make people more su****ious of Bud for not producing anything other than talk.

          And I think the majority of fans turned against Bud for his double-dealing under the table while calling for transparency, it's not a good look to point the finger with your hand in the cookie jar claiming that's not my hand.

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          • Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
            But that’s not how boxing pays fighters when it’s a super fight. When you have a super fight…a fight fans want to see, both will bring in ppvs during the promotion. What they sold before that only dictates who possibly gets paid more. Leonard didn’t lowball Hearns. Spinks and Tyson didn’t lowball each other. Fury didn’t lowball Wilder or vice versa. Super fights are fight that’s fans want to see. The public demands it. You can’t fall back on who sold what in the past. That’s only one factor. The prediction of ppv sales is where it’s at.
            There wasn’t as much piracy in those eras. PBC is losing millions because of piracy. You have to make sacrifices in order to get what you want. For me it comes down to trust and Haymon has a great reprutation. They already gave Crawford everything he wanted. He has a percentage of the proceeds which ultimately is a guarantee. But he’s too ****** to see that that’s why you let business people handle your business if you aren’t on the level.

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            • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

              I,ll find it or a reputable person that Steven said it too, point is its out there, the only thing out there from Bud is Bud who could easily prove it by showing the clause in the contract but for some reason he doesn't want to do that, reminds me of Schaefer showing the clause that proved the drug testing was in the first draft sent to Team Pac, its not hard to do it can only make people more su****ious of Bud for not producing anything other than talk.

              And I think the majority of fans turned against Bud for his double-dealing under the table while calling for transparency, it's not a good look to point the finger with your hand in the cookie jar claiming that's not my hand.
              I Just need a link with Stephen saying bud turned down 15 million.

              I never heard him say that. So prove me wrong

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              • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                I,ll find it or a reputable person that Steven said it too, point is its out there, the only thing out there from Bud is Bud who could easily prove it by showing the clause in the contract but for some reason he doesn't want to do that, reminds me of Schaefer showing the clause that proved the drug testing was in the first draft sent to Team Pac, its not hard to do it can only make people more su****ious of Bud for not producing anything other than talk.

                And I think the majority of fans turned against Bud for his double-dealing under the table while calling for transparency, it's not a good look to point the finger with your hand in the cookie jar claiming that's not my hand.
                Aint no way poor as dirt showtime offered Crawford 10mil guarantee, or even 8mil. Some of you really need to exercise some common sense. Those are DAZN, overpayment purses. That’s the purse they extorted from Canelo for Plant. Not to mention they know full well they will be lucky if this fight breaks 500k. People have to remember that this was/is to be a PBC/Showtime exclusive event. They are not reaching nearly enough people to pay anyone guarantees like that, since you have to consider what Spence would stand to make comparatively.

                We got tank here making 1-2mil, spence making 2-3mil(maybe 5 max), while their opponents make 500k-3mil. And you want to convince people Showtime offered Crawford 8-10mil guaranteed for Spence?

                If this floating 8-10mil number has any validity, it is as projected numbers from Crawford’s 35%.
                Last edited by SplitSecond; 11-22-2022, 02:03 PM.
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                • Originally posted by Outwest Exp 355 View Post

                  There wasn’t as much piracy in those eras. PBC is losing millions because of piracy. You have to make sacrifices in order to get what you want. For me it comes down to trust and Haymon has a great reprutation. They already gave Crawford everything he wanted. He has a percentage of the proceeds which ultimately is a guarantee. But he’s too ****** to see that that’s why you let business people handle your business if you aren’t on the level.
                  That’s not even close to the truth. And I don’t even know what you’re trying to say or what your point is either.

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                  • Originally posted by Hustle View Post

                    You got a link where Espinoza says this?
                    He can post the YouTube guy who told him this. Fannon or some other Spence goofball lmao…

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                    • Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
                      That’s not even close to the truth. And I don’t even know what you’re trying to say or what your point is either.
                      What’s not true? People aren’t stealing fights? What planet are you living on? What’s not true?

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