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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #101
    Originally posted by zipped

    You don't like the idea of "regulation". You win a title you gotta defend that title. Sanctioning bodies exist to regulate the pecking order of championship caliber fighter's. A newly crowned champion can't just "cherry pick" through a crop of fighters at their own discretion and pick who they wanna fight. The sanctioning body is gonna tell that champion who his mandatory challenger is. They're championship caliber fighters moving up and down the ladder, right now that a fickle puplic knows very little about. Most un-knowledgeable fans had Dimitry Bivol rated as an underdog to canelo alvarez. The boxing commission and the wbc, wbo, wba or the ibf can't leave boxing to a bunch of fans common sense because the public aren't following these fighters the way the sanctioning bodies are following them.
    I don’t like the idea of regulation? yet you’re cheerleading for mandatory concepts for which you were told there’s no consistency to begin with, and you then brought up Canelo vs Bivol… here let me help you out again

    The Brit (Whyte) will finally get his opportunity at Tyson Fury and the WBC heavyweight championship on Saturday night after almost five years in which he was the WBC mandatory, minus a few months after losing to Alexander Povetkin. Whyte won his opportunity by beating Robert Helenius for the governing body's "silver" title in October of 2017, but was passed over on multiple occasions by Deontay Wilder.

    Whyte won his opportunity at the WBC title while Wilder was champion in late 2017, but had to watch as Bermane Stiverne, Dominic Breazeale, Luis Ortiz twice and Fury three times fought for the belt before him.

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    • zipped
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      #102
      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

      I don’t like the idea of regulation? yet you’re cheerleading for mandatory concepts for which you were told there’s no consistency to begin with, and you then brought up Canelo vs Bivol… here let me help you out again

      The Brit (Whyte) will finally get his opportunity at Tyson Fury and the WBC heavyweight championship on Saturday night after almost five years in which he was the WBC mandatory, minus a few months after losing to Alexander Povetkin. Whyte won his opportunity by beating Robert Helenius for the governing body's "silver" title in October of 2017, but was passed over on multiple occasions by Deontay Wilder.

      Whyte won his opportunity at the WBC title while Wilder was champion in late 2017, but had to watch as Bermane Stiverne, Dominic Breazeale, Luis Ortiz twice and Fury three times fought for the belt before him.

      ...cheer leading for mandatory concepts? helping me out again?? ..you NEVER helped me out in the first place. I already how the system of mandatory challenger works for the boxing industry. How do we know Whyte was Wilder's mandatory? How do we know they didn't find performance enhancing drugs in his system or that he took the easy way out and accepted "step aside money" from Deontay Wilder??You're just a typical boxing fan "know it all" sitting at home wondering why this fight did or didn't happen, without seeing what's under the surface. Anyhow, you've already admitted that "mandatory challenger" system exist you just will not admit that it works, but without it, the boxing industry would be completely chaotic. We would hope you're not promoting that.
      Last edited by zipped; 11-20-2022, 01:06 PM.

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        #103
        Straight from the horse's mouth. He needs the money. Maybe because he's got kids with never-ending needs. Who knows?

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          #104
          Originally posted by zipped

          ...cheer leading for mandatory concepts? helping me out again?? ..you NEVER helped me out in the first place. I already how the system of mandatory challenger works for the boxing industry. How do we know Whyte was Wilder's mandatory? How do we know they didn't find performance enhancing drugs in his system or that he took the easy way out and accepted "step aside money" from Deontay Wilder??You're just a typical boxing fan "know it all" sitting at home wondering why this fight did or didn't happen, without seeing what's under the surface. Anyhow, you've already admitted that "mandatory challenger" system exist you just will not admit that it works, but without it, the boxing industry would be completely chaotic. We would hope you're not promoting that.
          Lol. So you inevitably agree with me that’s there’s no consistency with regulation, in a Mayweather exhibition thread. Lol

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            #105
            Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

            Lol. So you inevitably agree with me that’s there’s no consistency with regulation, in a Mayweather exhibition thread. Lol
            There's is consistency with regulation. Regulating boxing is what makes it work. Just because a champion can pay their mandatory challenger some "step-aside-money" doesn't mean there is no- consistency in regulation, the mandatory challenger doesn't have to accept the money. And if he doesn't accept the champion's step-aside-money the champion must fight, or be stripped, vacate or move up or down.

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #106
              Originally posted by zipped

              There is consistency with regulation. Regulating boxing is what makes it work. Just because a champion can pay their mandatory challenger some "step-aside-money" doesn't mean there is no- consistency in regulation, the mandatory challenger doesn't have to accept the money. And if he doesn't accept the champion's step-aside-money the champion must fight, or be stripped, vacate or move up or down.
              Ok bro… I realize this whole time you’re just reciting what is already known…and you think it’s fine

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                #107
                Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

                Ok bro… I realize this whole time you’re just reciting what is already known…and you think it’s fine
                Just read my next 2 post, this is a real case study.
                Welterweight contender Eimantas Stanionis will soon have to decide for himself how his career will pan out in the early part of 2023, says his promoter Richard Schaefer.

                Stanionis currently holds the WBA ‘World’ 147-pound title, a lesser version of the one currently held by Errol Spence Jr., who also has the IBF and WBC titles to his name. Stanionis has recently pressed the sanctioning body to enforce his status as mandatory challenger to Spence's title immediately after it was revealed last month that talks for an undisputed welterweight championship between Spence and WBO titlist Terence Crawford fell through. Sanctioning bodies generally allow unification fights to take precedence over mandatory defenses.

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                  #108
                  Stanionis, a 2016 Olympian for Lithuania, has already stepped aside once. He did so earlier this year, allowing then WBA ‘Super’ Champion Yordenis Ugas to take on Spence in a three-belt 147-pound unification. Spence wound up stopping Ugas in the 10th round of their 12-round bout on April 16 at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas.


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                    #109
                    Schaefer, the head of Probellum, recently explained that he will play a limited role in what his Lithuanian charge ends up doing.

                    “If the fighter is going to say, no, I’m not going to step aside, I want to fight next, then that’s the position that we’ll legally enforce against the relevant sanctioning organizations,” Schaefer told Tha Boxing Voice. “But if the fighter, in this particular case Stanionis, would say, ‘Look, what would be the step aside, what is the deal, who would I fight, when would I fight?’ And if something can be worked out then ultimately that is not to me, it is up to the fighter.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

                      Ok bro… I realize this whole time you’re just reciting what is already known…and you think it’s fine
                      After Spence-Crawford talks broke down, Stanionis made it clear on his social media that he does not plan to step aside and suggested Spence would either have to fight him or vacate the WBA ‘Super’ belt. “I have the first right to fight with Spence,” Stanionis wrote. “If he does not fight or forfeit the WBA Super Champion title, there will be no WBA Super Duper Champion and only the one I have will remain.”

                      However, it is widely expected that Spence will take on former titlist Keith Thurman early next year. (Crawford, on the other hand, is slated to face David Avanesyan on Dec. 10 in Crawford’s hometown of Omaha, Nebraska). Schaefer said that Spence would have to get Stanionis’ approval first before he can move forward with a Thurman fight. Stanionis has fought under Al Haymon's Premier Boxing Champions for most of his professional career. Both Spence and Thurman are also longtime PBC fighters.

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