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  • #61
    Originally posted by P to the J View Post

    Yes, but its also more complicated than that.

    (1) There has been a tacit geopolitical understanding since the Berlin conference of 1884, which initiated the ‘scramble for Africa’, that colonisation was fine as long as (a) rules were observed by imperialist nations about which areas were fair game for each, and (b) Europe was left out.

    In other words, you were all good to pursue global interests, but not outside of your assigned portion of the globe, and certainly not the metropolitan territory of a competing European imperialist state. You’ll see in most cases of subsequent European conflict, the spark has been a nation not observing these codes.


    (2) Lets be really brutal about this, the WBC, FIFA, et al, are western organisations with western comercial sponsors. Ofc, their “moral stances” will fall in line with the western political and economic status quo. If they were within Russia’s (or whoever’s) sphere of influence, they would do the same, but as per a different status quo.
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    This is true, however, colonialism ended and so did conquering and occupying other nation by Western nations except for the US of course.
    We don’t have to back to colonialism. Just look at the US’ record since 1980. It’s literally over two dozen countries that we’ve invaded, occupied or imposed economic sanctions.

    Russia, in the last 30 years has been a Saint compared to the US. In fact, when Russia was pounding Chechnya, Europe and the US were as silent as a pond. Why? Because Chechens are predominantly ******s.
    The pattern is pretty clear.

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    • #62
      ******* Russia's fault....fcuk em
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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        This is true, however, colonialism ended and so did conquering and occupying other nation by Western nations except for the US of course.
        We don’t have to back to colonialism. Just look at the US’ record since 1980. It’s literally over two dozen countries that we’ve invaded, occupied or imposed economic sanctions.

        Russia, in the last 30 years has been a Saint compared to the US. In fact, when Russia was pounding Chechnya, Europe and the US were as silent as a pond. Why? Because Chechens are predominantly ******s.
        The pattern is pretty clear.

        It's certainly the case that some ppl are considered not worthy of the rights afforded to humans, and thus, not human, but I would dispute that colonialism has ended. And tbf, those respective points we've made interlink

        Russia in Ukraine, the U.S. in Afghanistan and Iraq, wherein they've instituted de facto colonial govts, are just a few contemporary examples of colonialism continuing, either in its early stages or with a puppet administration instituted, Then consider the exploitation of the natural resources and labour of peoples in Africa, Asia, and South America by corporations backed by states across the world; these are signifiers of neo-colonialism, and as with the 19th/20h century variants, watch what happens the next time a government is popularly elected in any such region that defies such corporate interests. Perhaps the main diff is the tendency to more geopolitical collaboration in these processes today, that sees America often as drivers, but with support from many others owing to shared interests.


        Also, I'll go ahead and argue that this the Chechen crimes were overlooked, not just due to ethnic and religious identity, but also owing to the fact the Russian state transitioned to one that was quick to sell off public services to domestic oligarchs and open business for international capital post-Soviet Union, thus, becoming effective allies of the west. Ofc, what I'm saying is that international justice as a concept is non-existent, and entirely down to expediency, for any non-allies pulling this **** would have been condemned as enemies of global humanity, or some other grandiosity.
        Last edited by P to the J; 11-09-2022, 04:28 PM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake View Post

          Please tell me what the heck is the difference?!



          What's the difference between WW2 ****s and Russian boxers?

          Well, Russian boxers are not dropping bombs on London or rounding up ***s and exterminating them in concentration camps, so there's 2 important differences for you.

          Maybe you can tell me how you think they are similar. Are any Russian boxers taking part in the invasion of Ukraine? Are any of them supporting *****, or saying that Russians are the master race who should rule the world?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by peplz View Post

            Racism against black fighters/people is not global politics.
            Yeah, blocked, not even wasting my time

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post

              Yeah, blocked, not even wasting my time
              Yeah cause ignorance is bliss.

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