Bivol should outbox Zurdo easily BUT…

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  • dan_cov
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    #11
    But that is all in hindsight, excuses and backtracking. Going into the fight very few was saying these things.
    Hell loads said the same about Bivol going into the Canelo fight that he hadn't fought anybody, I disagree with that but that is what was being said.

    We hear it every week ''this guy can't win because he has only fought bums'', boxing doesn't work that way. It often simply means they just haven't had the opportunity to showcase their skills, talent, ability etc at a certain perceived level. Zurdos resume sucks on the grand scheme but I feel hes fought good enough opposition to give us a decent indicator of him belonging at least, probably top 5 worst case. Now can he hang with the real elite? We need to see it.
    Me personally I think he has the size, physicality, style and skills to be a big problem for them.
    Pressure fighter who is naturally 15lbs bigger with greater bone density and such, can take a shot, has cardio for days, high workrate, relentless body puncher - that is a problem.

    Zurdo might not have the amateur pedigree but you can say that about almost every Mexican fighter. They train a pro style, often turn pro young, stay active and learn their trade as they go on in the pro ranks.
    Last edited by dan_cov; 11-05-2022, 12:55 PM.

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    • MONGOOSE66
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      #12
      Smith & Ramirez are very similar. I think Smith is a little quicker. I see an easy fight for Bivol. I wish he were fighting Beterbiev. Now that’s a tuff fight for him.

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      • Dakuwaqa
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        #13
        This is a close fight

        Ramirez is huge, durable and dangerous

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          #14
          Originally posted by Jacobson
          Bivol’s hands and feet are waaaay too fast for Zurdo, but one thing I noticed about Bivol is that when he gets hit he likes to try to return the favor immediately. The danger here is that Zurdo rehydrates 30lbs and will be Heavyweight by fight night and the dude can hit, if Bivol isn’t careful he could get hurt and dropped if he makes a mistake in there.

          I hope Bivol plays it safe and I think he wins but his heart could get him in trouble. Bivol by UD or Zurdo by KO.
          Zurdo has overrated power. His best wins he couldn't stop and they were journeyman. Busark, hart, angulo, and abraham.

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          • -Kev-
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            #15
            Everyone has Bivol vs Canelo fresh on their minds. Canelo is 5’8” and campaigned a lot at 154-160. He bit off more than he could chew as far back as his Callum Smith fight imo, and I said even when that fight was made. The Bivol fight was really Canelo daring really hard to be great.

            We must keep in mind, Zurdo is an actual Light Heavyweight, 6’3”, and this will be Zurdo’s 15th or so fight at 175. His best wins have been at 175lbs.

            Zurdo absolutely has a good chance to outbox Bivol if he plays his cards right. That means using that 3” height and reach advantage and stay on the outside. The exact same thing Bivol did to Canelo with his size advantage. Zurdo can do that too, but he needs to actually execute it. Easier said than done. I do think it will be a good competitive fight.

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              #16
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              Everyone has Bivol vs Canelo fresh on their minds. Canelo is 5’8” and campaigned a lot at 154-160. He bit off more than he could chew as far back as his Callum Smith fight imo, and I said even when that fight was made. The Bivol fight was really Canelo daring really hard to be great.

              We must keep in mind, Zurdo is an actual Light Heavyweight, 6’3”, and this will be Zurdo’s 15th or so fight at 175. His best wins have been at 175lbs.

              Zurdo absolutely has a good chance to outbox Bivol if he plays his cards right. That means using that 3” height and reach advantage and stay on the outside. The exact same thing Bivol did to Canelo with his size advantage. Zurdo can do that too, but he needs to actually execute it. Easier said than done. I do think it will be a good competitive fight.
              Canelo is a defensive wizard. Ramirez is there to be hit.

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              • El_Mero
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                #17
                He did, just like he did vs Ginger. 9-3 Bivol at the worst.

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                • lopetego
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  But that is all in hindsight, excuses and backtracking. Going into the fight very few was saying these things.
                  Hell loads said the same about Bivol going into the Canelo fight that he hadn't fought anybody, I disagree with that but that is what was being said.

                  We hear it every week ''this guy can't win because he has only fought bums'', boxing doesn't work that way. It often simply means they just haven't had the opportunity to showcase their skills, talent, ability etc at a certain perceived level. Zurdos resume sucks on the grand scheme but I feel hes fought good enough opposition to give us a decent indicator of him belonging at least, probably top 5 worst case. Now can he hang with the real elite? We need to see it.
                  Me personally I think he has the size, physicality, style and skills to be a big problem for them.
                  Pressure fighter who is naturally 15lbs bigger with greater bone density and such, can take a shot, has cardio for days, high workrate, relentless body puncher - that is a problem.

                  Zurdo might not have the amateur pedigree but you can say that about almost every Mexican fighter. They train a pro style, often turn pro young, stay active and learn their trade as they go on in the pro ranks.
                  easy UD for Bivol, told you so

                  There's levels to this shiet

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                  • satiev1
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by lopetego

                    easy UD for Bivol, told you so

                    There's levels to this shiet
                    Lol he put zurdo at his own game on the inside as well.

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