Comments Thread For: Conor Benn: I'm Really Trying To Prove My Innocence, Get To Bottom of What Happened

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  • tokon
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    #41
    Originally posted by Cortez
    It's all a scam. The testers all know that everyone is juicing. They can see blood work of these guys who are jacked yet have almost zero testosterone, they understand that this is from cycling off and suffering shut down but hey the tests not about that. They are under the limits lmao
    And that's people who pass the tests.


    ​​​​​​The new low in the UK is that you see there's no commission, the bbbc is not a commission it is only a private limited company.

    So the big promotions control everything. The fact that the vada results go to the promotors is downright criminal.

    The fact that they kept revas in the dark over a failed test is another amazing feat.

    ​​​​​There's no Ali act in the UK so lines are crossed all the time.

    Need a court order on vada to disclose all UK fighter's tests that were sent to promotors.

    ​​​​​​The promotions also control the reteroic, adverse findings, cleared to fight, contamination, due process.

    The drug test is the due process, an adverse finding means a failed drug test. B samples which you always side step rules out contamination as does the other tests you failed
    Great post.

    But there can be no "under the limits" for a drug like clomid. This is not a substance can somehow just appear in a male fighter.Its a prohibited drug. The people that run vada know exactly what it's used for by athletes; it's part of a"post cycle therapy" to raise natural testosterone levels AFTER they've been suppressed by steroid use. "Trace amounts" still mean it's been used.
    Last edited by tokon; 10-28-2022, 06:41 PM.

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    • Ragga1
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      #42
      Originally posted by Toffee

      Correct that the board weren't concerned about the failed test, only the public reaction to it being leaked.

      Eubank's team weren't concerned about the levels of clomiphene in Benn's system.

      Benn's team didn't think it worth even worrying about until it was leaked.

      UKAD didn't even pick it up.

      I'm not sure this is even a case of morals. The amount of clomiphene in Benn's system seemingly wasn't enough to warrant any kind of discussion from all the people who had enough information to make a decision.

      Which makes me think this isn't too uncommon. It's only the media treatment that made it a big deal.

      Right or wrong doesn't come into it. This all about PR for the board, the promoters and the fighters.
      Clomiphene is used to boost testosterone after being on a cycle of PEDs, the fact it’s in his system at all, even a small amount, isn’t okay. It’s clearly too easy for fighters to cycle off what they’re using, the poor standard of the frequency of testing and highlights the mass hypocrisy that undermines the rules of boxing. That said there is an investigation taking place, so we’ll see what comes of that.

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