Comments Thread For: British Board Confirm Conor Benn is Being Investigated Over Failed Test

[PotentialToast]

Re-read it sweetheart and just for clarifcation UKAD uses all of WADAs regulations in fact if you go on their (UKADs) site and click their prohibited substances it'll take you directly to WADAs list...

Prohibited substances in classes S4.1 and S4.2 are Specified Substances - S4.2 - Anti-estrogenic substances and Selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERMS)

• Bazedoxifene
• CLOMIFENE
• Cyclofenil
• Fulvestrant
• Ospemifene
• Raloxifene
• Tamoxifen
• Toremifene

Ukad and wada are aligned. VADA not. There are test procedures etc. That are standardised so under WADA (world level harmonisation), USADA tests / sanctions would be enforced. But this has nothing to do with VADA.

It should apply of course.
I suspect this is one of those cases where multiple tests conflict or show none doping levels consistent with contamination because the drug is in system for 6 months.

[Boro]

Ukad and wada are aligned. VADA not. There are test procedures etc. That are standardised so under WADA (world level harmonisation), USADA tests / sanctions would be enforced. But this has nothing to do with VADA.

It should apply of course.
I suspect this is one of those cases where multiple tests conflict or show none doping levels consistent with contamination because the drug is in system for 6 months.

I very much doubt it, I think what's happening is Eddie and Kalle are trying to fight it on technicality, using BJS as an example he got banned in America failing a VADA test but was still able to fight under the BBBofC which provides precedent for their lawyers assuming they go down that route and that's a very real possibility because it's really not going well for Eddie at the moment.

[PotentialToast]

I very much doubt it, I think what's happening is Eddie and Kalle are trying to fight it on technicality, using BJS as an example he got banned in America failing a VADA test but was still able to fight under the BBBofC which provides precedent for their lawyers assuming they go down that route and that's a very real possibility because it's really not going well for Eddie at the moment.

The BJS issue is a red herring because that was an issue of the US and UK had different rules on what in competition meant. Us sensibly includes preparation. Different situation here.

[techliam]

What use is a UKAD investigation?

It didn’t catch him in the first place

UKAD can’t clear Benn. Surely no one is falling for this ?

[Boro]

The BJS issue is a red herring because that was an issue of the US and UK had different rules on what in competition meant. Us sensibly includes preparation. Different situation here.

Not really USADA still use WADA rules just like UKAD, like it said it's a precedent that's been set by the board already and proven they're willing to ignore VADA.

It's VADAs rules that are different in what's considered in-competition and not, Massachusetts State Athletic Commission decided to take heed of VADAs results the board didn't.

[Smash]

P.S. Then again he was with Frank/Kelly Maloney when he "popped" for DMAA and with Eddie when he popped for Dianabol maybe that's the deciding factor in what does and doesn't get swept under the proverbial.

That guy has been caught twice for peds & eddie definitely i would say had something to do with his let off recently, he was worth more ££'s than the first time, the problem is there is no zero tolerance for peds, whyte and benn are both probably serial drug cheats, wouldnt be surprised if whyte has been cheating his entire career actually & look where he is now, noone cares at all as long as he makes money for them, they demand apologies actually from doubters, its a farce

[Boro]

That guy has been caught twice for peds & eddie definitely i would say had something to do with his let off recently, he was worth more ££'s than the first time, the problem is there is no zero tolerance for peds, whyte and benn are both probably serial drug cheats, wouldnt be surprised if whyte has been cheating his entire career actually & look where he is now, noone cares at all as long as he makes money for them, they demand apologies actually from doubters, its a farce

I agree with Whyte being a serial cheat, it's ironic he always mentions AJs weight gain but he himself has weighed as low as 226 and now regularly fights in the high 240s low 250s as they say "When you point the finger, there are three fingers pointing back at you".

And I also believe Connor has been the last 2 years at least.

Yes drug cheats everywhere are a farce some people are calling for Miller to get the AJ fight after being caught with every injectable under the sun in his system.

Sadly it is ultimately about what makes money and the BBBofC and UKAD are both charities so they've got an incentive not to punish people because that affects their bottom line.

But I can't agree with zero tolerance because selfishly I want to self how they perform off the juice.

And so many great fighters like Mosley ,RJJ, Toney so on and so forth have popped it'd be a shame to of missed out on their fights.

[786]

Can someone remind me why Whyte was cleared after the Rivas incident? I don't remember seeing any reasoning to the decision but I could be wrong, it just felt like they waited for the smoke to clear and then allowed him to fight again.

[Smash]

But I can't agree with zero tolerance because selfishly I want to self how they perform off the juice.

And so many great fighters like Mosley ,RJJ, Toney so on and so forth have popped it'd be a shame to of missed out on their fights.

oh yes definitely, i agree not banish them forever, more like, if u pop u are not going to get off scott free no matter what & will serve some ban depending on substance etc plus if u are caught again, well throw the book at them this time, at the moment guys have no real fear of getting caught and the benefits of ped use outweigh the risks for a lot of them as the list of excuses that are accepted is long if they do get caught, its almost like, well this guy got off or got this low ban so why cant i?

[Boro]

Can someone remind me why Whyte was cleared after the Rivas incident? I don't remember seeing any reasoning to the decision but I could be wrong, it just felt like they waited for the smoke to clear and then allowed him to fight again.

• There is nothing in Mr Whyte's longitudinal urinary profile to suggest that he has used steroids.
• The levels of the metabolites found in Mr Whyte's 20 June 2019 sample were extremely low.
• Mr Whyte had provided a urine sample to VADA on 17 June 2019, i.e. 3 days before his 20 June 2019 sample, which was tested by a WADA-accredited laboratory and which returned a negative result, including for the metabolites in question.
• Mr Whyte provided several other doping control samples to UKAD and VADA between 20 June and 20 July 2019 (i.e. the date of his fight with Oscar Rivas) – all of which also tested negative.
• In light of the above points, the trace amounts of metabolites found in the 20 June 2019 sample are consistent with an isolated contamination event, and they are not suggestive of doping.