Money or Manny? - BoxingScene’s Pound 4 Pound Top 10

[crold1]

why do certain guys get all emotional over the "P4P" rankings? They are ALL opinion and they are ALL mythical...simple as that.

This.

Only thing that bothers me with this list, is the fact that Paul Williams is rated number 5.

To all William fans: Your boy is over-rated.

I have him lower than ESPN or Yahoo's journo poll right now...hey, let the debate roar.

To all: Sorry for the flood posting but many of you had good comments.

[chinoy]

Marquez wouldn't have won at any weight. At 130, or 35, the versions of Floyd in those classes and The Marquez of those classes is still about 12-0. Marquez sucks, flat sucks, against leggy counter punchers. It's his style kryptonite. Norwood? Gainer? He looked terrible in those fights and they aren't even in Floyd's world talent wise.

if this is your argument, then PBF should have been your number 1 P4P since Pacman was not 24-0 with JMM at featherweight and Jr lightweight then.....

[crold1]

if this is your argument, then PBF should have been your number 1 P4P since Pacman was not 24-0 with JMM at featherweight and Jr lightweight then.....

It's only a part of the argument. Read the rest on the list.

[Iceta]

This list sucks donkey ****. That's all.

[Bushidō]

I don't have a problem with Dawson and Williams being up there. Dawson beat all the top guys already. Marquez should not be that low though. He should not be penalized that much

[oc9979]

Even though P4P is just an opinion then I think my list is better then more real then these bias list.

1. Paul Williams
2. Vitali Klitschko
3. Wladimir Klitschko
4. Manny Pacquaio
5. Arthur Abraham
6. Shane Mosley
7. Floyd Mayweather, Jr
8. Juan Manuel Marquez
9. Chad Dawson
10. Ivan Calderon

Honorable Mention:
Israel Vazquez, Celestino Caballero, Vic Darchinyan , Joshua Clottey, Nate Campbell

just wow. cotto is not there and you are mentioning Caballero, Darchinyan, Clottey and Campbell??
Dawson?? and Williams 1. holy shyt

[bluetuazon]

WOW you guys at Boxingscene have really lost your minds havent you. Im not even going to bother to debate this one the REAL FANS know Mayweather has always been P4P Manny will be exposed by cotto end of story, come November you'll be made to look like fools lmao

what is ur defenition of real fans then? you? if thats the case, i dont wanna be a fan then....i dont wanna be labeled as a moron and idiot...

[Spear]

Several bad calls this time by the normally solid Cliff Rold.

The most controversial is obviously Mayweather. I'd like to hear Cliff's reasoning as to having him rated above SSM and Cotto who are guys rated above him at 147.

Another thing regarding Mayweather is that how can a previously unrated welterweight rise to number 2 p4p by beating a fat lightweight?

To me it looks as if Cliff has fallen in the trap of couldas, wouldas and shouldas regarding Mayweather instead of looking at what he actually HAS done.

very good point. I think taking out israel vasquez & rafael marquez because of inactivity is wrong. they have not retired yet, i think rafael fought recently. vasquez has not said he retired. If they are not retired they should still stay. bernard & shane have been inactive for awhile why are they included but not the 2 junior featherweights? A lot of american bias in the p4p rankings. I think calderon belongs more than dawson & just as much as paul williams.

[jetgeomcx]

my humble list:

1.Pacquiao
2/3. Mosley/Floyd
4.Marquez
5.Hopkins
6.Paul Williams
7.Cotto
8.Chad Dawson
9.Nonito Donaire
10.Vic Darchinyan

shane and floyd must square it off now.
but then floyd will opt to wait for midget manny til summer.

marquez lost to the ex-p4pk at a wt not his own
rafa and izzy are long inactive. they should fyt others as well.....