So Benn’s career is DOA now?

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  • Toffee
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    #11
    I'll predict he'll get off.

    He's popped for trace levels of something that may increase testosterone levels. But he's under constant testing which isn't showing anything, presumably including increased testosterone levels.

    Yes, we know there's something in the positive. He's up to something. They're all up to something. The people surrounding these fighters are employed to work around the regulations - they've misstepped here but not to Jarrell Miller proportions.

    They'll argue he couldn't possibly have taken this, according to the testing regime. B sample doesn't matter - they won't be alleging contamination of just the A sample. That would be a ****** defence given they could just test the B sample in front of him and confirm his guilt.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Cash in
      The timing of it and the opponent make things much worse. Fury popped vs Hammer, revealed after the event, so nothing was lost, and on top of that, nobody in their right mind could think Fury needed to be juiced up to beat Hammer. The only bad side of that is some idiots keep thinking it was for the Wlad fight, which it WAS NOT!

      Everything getting canceled last minute lately is terrible for boxing though, and Eddie Hearn is nearing his last straw. To me, if Eubank was fine going ahead, as he was, then the show must go on, but of course, the British Boxing Board of Crap went with the predictable decision. Cash in
      No it wasn't for the Wlad fight, but it was before it in the overall timeline.

      Then they expunged the Hammer fight (which seemingly never took effect) and retrospectively banned Fury from after the Wlad fight.

      Anyone can see how much that stinks, surely?

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      • sicko
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        #13
        Forced to fight Clean so don't be shocked like Kid Galahad he won't look the same and will start to Suffer Defeats to not even Top Level Opponents

        then again never really seen him as World Level to begin with

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        • Cash in
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          #14
          Originally posted by Toffee

          No it wasn't for the Wlad fight, but it was before it in the overall timeline.

          Then they expunged the Hammer fight (which seemingly never took effect) and retrospectively banned Fury from after the Wlad fight.

          Anyone can see how much that stinks, surely?
          That's not the point I am making though. It's often said that he was popped and cheated for the Wlad fight by people none the wiser. It's been said many times that Fury cheated for Wlad, as due to the time it was announced many people assumed it was for that fight and not the Hammer fight. Fury passed every test for Wlad, and I recall hearing his camp saying that he was tested an insane amount of times for that fight.

          Just saying that people need to get their facts right about which fight it was, and it's always very selective, as nobody who disliked Fury would care to mention it was for the Hammer fight, because Hammer is garbage and couldn't beat Tommy Fury, never mind Tyson. Whereas with Benn vs Eubank, you could make a very strong case that Benn was trying to get an edge, with can't be said with Fury vs Hammer. Cash in

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            #15
            Time will pass. People will give less of a ****. We already know this story.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Toffee
              I'll predict he'll get off.

              He's popped for trace levels of something that may increase testosterone levels. But he's under constant testing which isn't showing anything, presumably including increased testosterone levels.

              Yes, we know there's something in the positive. He's up to something. They're all up to something. The people surrounding these fighters are employed to work around the regulations - they've misstepped here but not to Jarrell Miller proportions.

              They'll argue he couldn't possibly have taken this, according to the testing regime. B sample doesn't matter - they won't be alleging contamination of just the A sample. That would be a ****** defence given they could just test the B sample in front of him and confirm his guilt.
              Cloma is a PCT. you take it AFTER your cycle so your body will naturally bring test levels back to normal and keeps you from getting Errol Spence *******.

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              • Inspired
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                #17
                Originally posted by Cash in

                That's not the point I am making though. It's often said that he was popped and cheated for the Wlad fight by people none the wiser. It's been said many times that Fury cheated for Wlad, as due to the time it was announced many people assumed it was for that fight and not the Hammer fight. Fury passed every test for Wlad, and I recall hearing his camp saying that he was tested an insane amount of times for that fight.

                Just saying that people need to get their facts right about which fight it was, and it's always very selective, as nobody who disliked Fury would care to mention it was for the Hammer fight, because Hammer is garbage and couldn't beat Tommy Fury, never mind Tyson. Whereas with Benn vs Eubank, you could make a very strong case that Benn was trying to get an edge, with can't be said with Fury vs Hammer. Cash in

                the benefits he gained from sted use would have benefited him in that wlad fight. he popped dirty for the hammer fight and should have been banned and not got to fight wlad.

                btw fury's with the same doctor as conor benn, as is joseph parker.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  Most athletes are fine after failed drug tests. They get fined, suspended, but come back. Not in Olympic competition, or some other sports like in the Lance Armstrong doping case where Armstrong was basically the ringleader of a widescale doping program.

                  Otherwise for individual athletes, especially first-time offenders, it's usually a slap on the wrist.
                  - - Not gonna get into gummint interference in a sport, TDF, who initiated heavy drug testing as part of the cleanest era of TDF history that Lance was part of.

                  After many years retirement, reputation being savaged, Lance comes back riding back into shape at lesser venues, the last being the Aussie Tour where he finished very high in spite of a broken shoulder in a crash that he rode with in the TDF. He posted his daily drug testing values online for anyone to view, and in spite of his injury won bronze.

                  This history is incontrovertible, yet he was stripped of that Bronze. If he was the horrid cheat you claim, no way Jose, ain't gonna happen. So, how could he do that if he was the cheat you claim. Give it up man, show us what you got. Should be easy since you have all the answers. Nobody in sports has ever done so much for Drug Testing than Lance did in his final tour.

                  Are you British? I know Brits have a boxing inferiority complex born of American domination such that they love their luvable losers more than they love their winners.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                    - - Not gonna get into gummint interference in a sport, TDF, who initiated heavy drug testing as part of the cleanest era of TDF history that Lance was part of.

                    After many years retirement, reputation being savaged, Lance comes back riding back into shape at lesser venues, the last being the Aussie Tour where he finished very high in spite of a broken shoulder in a crash that he rode with in the TDF. He posted his daily drug testing values online for anyone to view, and in spite of his injury won bronze.

                    This history is incontrovertible, yet he was stripped of that Bronze. If he was the horrid cheat you claim, no way Jose, ain't gonna happen. So, how could he do that if he was the cheat you claim. Give it up man, show us what you got. Should be easy since you have all the answers. Nobody in sports has ever done so much for Drug Testing than Lance did in his final tour.

                    Are you British? I know Brits have a boxing inferiority complex born of American domination such that they love their luvable losers more than they love their winners.
                    Lance cheated. He admitted it. Stop crying about it.

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                    • Pac=Duran
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_

                      Cloma is a PCT. you take it AFTER your cycle so your body will naturally bring test levels back to normal and keeps you from getting Errol Spence *******.
                      From what I’ve read it’s part of a heavy duty cycle. Maybe they’re all on it and Benn just mistimed it.

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