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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #31
    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

    Nothing fragile? He's made endless excuses for his losses. Calling Fury a cheat, blaming a 40 pound costume, blaming his first trainer, blaming the referee, racism, and a slew of other pathetic excuses for his losses to Fury. The guy was mentally unstable prior to the Fury fights, he's now gone completely over the edge. He's back into battle because there is easier pickings to help heal his wounded ego.
    Fragile is accepting the loss too easily and walking away from the battle. Check Wilder's actions, all the talk was just his internal battle with the loss 'Being projected outwards' Check the mans actions.

    He came back in the third fight, and pushed Tyson Fury to the brink. Push Tyson Fury like no fighter has ever pushed him before, and maybe never will again.

    That is not fragile mate, you know this and deep down all of Wilder's detractors believe this also.

    Tyson Fury, his team and the fighting people of his culture. They know what type of man Wilder is, when the going gets tough. That is why when it comes to fighting, you will every rarely see anyone discredit his attitude. Deontay Wilder is a gladiator, he fights and goes until there is no more.

    Then he comes back again. That type of resolve and competitive attitude is not fragile, it is utterly terrifying to normal people.

    That is why they mock it, and try and dress it down. They don't understand it.



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    • GhostofDempsey
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      #32
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

      Fragile is accepting the loss too easily and walking away from the battle. Check Wilder's actions, all the talk was just his internal battle with the loss 'Being projected outwards' Check the mans actions.

      He came back in the third fight, and pushed Tyson Fury to the brink. Push Tyson Fury like no fighter has ever pushed him before, and maybe never will again.

      That is not fragile mate, you know this and deep down all of Wilder's detractors believe this also.

      Tyson Fury, his team and the fighting people of his culture. They know what type of man Wilder is, when the going gets tough. That is why when it comes to fighting, you will every rarely see anyone discredit his attitude. Deontay Wilder is a gladiator, he fights and goes until there is no more.

      Then he comes back again. That type of resolve and competitive attitude is not fragile, it is utterly terrifying to normal people.

      That is why they mock it, and try and dress it down. They don't understand it.


      He is mentally fragile. We can post up endless excuses he made for his losses. He's an embarrassment to the sport. Insisting Fury cheated in their fights, and blaming everyone and anything he could for his losses. I have zero respect for him as a fighter and as a man. This is a guy who said he wanted to kill an opponent in the ring. He's constantly sticking his foot in his mouth. Boxing would be just fine without him.

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #33
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

        He is mentally fragile. We can post up endless excuses he made for his losses. He's an embarrassment to the sport. Insisting Fury cheated in their fights, and blaming everyone and anything he could for his losses. I have zero respect for him as a fighter and as a man. This is a guy who said he wanted to kill an opponent in the ring. He's constantly sticking his foot in his mouth. Boxing would be just fine without him.
        There is no evidence in his actions that he is fragile, zero mate.

        His actions, his resolve prove otherwise 'To all these flippant claims of yours about his attitude'. You know this, and you do respect him.

        If Deontay Wilder was in battle with you over anything, you would take him and his threat very serious.

        All the excuses were just internal processes being spoken out loud. At the end of the day, when it came time to fight 'He pushed Tyson Fury more than any other fighter, both inside and outside of the ring'.

        And I can assure you, that boxing does not exist without fighters. It is the fighters that ultimately make the sport.

        If everyone had your attitude, of 'Boxing just fine without him a fighter'. If every boxing fan could just say that, and do away with fighters they dislike.

        Boxing would not be fine 'So you are wrong'. Because they make the sport. Their ambitions and quests to compete.





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        • juggernaut666
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          #34
          Furys own weight tired Wilder out pressing him and making Wilder expand more energy , not Wilders weight itself . Wilder prides himself on being this athletic fighter but now he knows the more lean muscle you have at a higher weight the more fit you have to be . Not so easy is it and you were not even 240 pounds unlike other heavyweights that prove to produce more output during a fight .

          If he fights Joyce he’s in major trouble it’s likely the worst style match up for him .
          Last edited by juggernaut666; 10-07-2022, 10:57 AM.

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          • bullydean
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            #35
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

            There is no evidence in his actions that he is fragile, zero mate.

            His actions, his resolve prove otherwise 'To all these flippant claims of yours about his attitude'. You know this, and you do respect him.

            If Deontay Wilder was in battle with you over anything, you would take him and his threat very serious.

            All the excuses were just internal processes being spoken out loud. At the end of the day, when it came time to fight 'He pushed Tyson Fury more than any other fighter, both inside and outside of the ring'.

            And I can assure you, that boxing does not exist without fighters. It is the fighters that ultimately make the sport.

            If everyone had your attitude, of 'Boxing just fine without him a fighter'. If every boxing fan could just say that, and do away with fighters they dislike.

            Boxing would not be fine 'So you are wrong'. Because they make the sport. Their ambitions and quests to compete.




            That still shows mental weakness called insecurity and denial.

            Yes Wilder didn't give up which is honestly insane. Fury isn't a one punch KO artist but he still hits hard like any heavyweight and is a accurate puncher.

            But breaking down psychologically because you got handed your first loss by a vicious beat down shows how fragile his mind is.

            Even after the first fight. Wilder said he should have won but he didn't break down. He was still friendly with Fury regardless of their antics.

            Once Fury beat him in the first rematch Wilder's mind snapped because he couldn't handle the loss. That's a fragile mind. The guys mind is so broken he still believes he could have Fury locked up. His mind is gone and filled with delusions.

            He is a crazy man. Not a strong man. (Mentally of course)

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            • Roberto Vasquez
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              #36
              I would like Wilder if he actually fought some people. He did great against Fury then kind of just ran away. When instead he should have been taking some big fights. Helenius is not a great fighter at all. I'm sure they are puffing him up to sell the fight, but he should be easy for Wilder.

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              • PunchyPotorff
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                #37
                Here we go again, wilder starts up the excuse express like he does EVERY TIME.

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                • TheIronMike
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                  #38
                  The over/under for this fight is 4.5. Anyone thinks wilder blasts him out in that time?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by MastaBlasta

                    He didn't gas. He took a mean head-shot. After the head-shots of the 2nd fight ... that 3rd round shot put him right back into the trauma from the 2nd fight. It's common with serious head injuries. Almost expected. It takes a long time for the brain to properly heal .... and to be able to take those kind of shots. His heart and mind were ready to fight, but I don't think the brain was ready to take shots like that at that time. He may STILL have a very bad reaction to that (we'll see in the Helenius fight). It could be a dangerous situation.
                    He said himself that it killed his endurance. You can see that he took that shot because he wasn't getting his exits like he was in the first, and that he was a lot more stationary. No disagreement about the impact of headshots. I'm married to a neurologist after all, and in combat sports myself. But he's taken shots like that before and it was very different. He came in way heavier than his average. One of the outlets tracked his weights across fights relative to his performance and made the point that he should be coming in way lighter.

                    Connor McGregor is going to discover the cost of all that new muscle when he finally gets back in the octagon. He's always had a bad gas tank, and if he can't get it don't in Rd 1, he's going to be in trouble.

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