Comments Thread For: Wilder 'Felt A Little Sluggish, A Little Heavy' In 3rd Fury Fight; Will Be In 220s For Helenius

[PRINCEKOOL]

He didn't gas. He took a mean head-shot. After the head-shots of the 2nd fight ... that 3rd round shot put him right back into the trauma from the 2nd fight. It's common with serious head injuries. Almost expected. It takes a long time for the brain to properly heal .... and to be able to take those kind of shots. His heart and mind were ready to fight, but I don't think the brain was ready to take shots like that at that time. He may STILL have a very bad reaction to that (we'll see in the Helenius fight). It could be a dangerous situation.

Ideally Wilder should have taken at least a year (maybe two) between Fury fights 2 and 3. That said, he absolutely showed he is one of a kind .... to take that 3rd round shot, only partially recover ... yet drop Fury twice (and nearly pulled the fight out). Legendary ....

But in my opinion that 3rd fight should still be in-waiting. Serious head injuries take a lot of time to heal from. I still wouldn't have him fighting yet. But, only he knows his mind and body. I hope he comes through the Helenius fight in good shape.

I agree. It was a testing fight, in terms of endurance.

Just because a fighter gets fatigued during those type of fights? It does not mean there is something glaring wrong with their endurance.

Both fighters were fatigued but fighting through it.

Deontay Wilder is no Evander Holyfield in terms of endurance, but his endurance is good compared to most heavyweights around today. For example: He is miles ahead of Andy Ruiz Junior, I really don't rate Ruiz Junior's endurance not from his last fight.

Fighters with bad endurance, do not get up off the deck multiple times to deck the other fighter. For this simple fact, this is why I also rate Anthony Joshua's endurance better than people make out 'The statistics of his fights and work rate show this'.

I think it is the right tactics for Wilder to stick to his usual training tactics, and not to try and match these other super heavyweights for mass. He was not entirely functional at the higher weight and his mechanics were a bit off 'But his brute strength did improve clearly'.

The tactics nearly worked out for him, for as long as Wilder was in that fight? It could of went ether way, by no means was it a dominate win for Fury.

I have no really made any predictions for the Helenius fight, because it is hard to gauge Wilder's form.

[SweetPbfAli]

I mean, what the **** did he expect?

[SweetPbfAli]

The only way wilder could have dealt with fury at that size was either to circle and pop a ram rod jab and slice fury’s eyes up which would have required a level of boxing iq and emotional discipline Wilder does not have OR put on more mass to be around 240-250 which his frame cannot accommodate. Bottom line is fury will always be bigger and more intelligent than wilder and both of those together are a bad mix for wilder. Wilder will always have nothing more than a punchers chance against fury and since fury has both a solid chin and better yet an evander holyfield like ability to recover from being hurt, it’s just never going to happen. Once fury realized in that 12th round of the first fight they he could hurt wilder when he backed him up after the knockdown he sent all he needed to see for the rematches

I've said this before as well. From that point in the 12th round of the first fight when he got up from the knockdown and pushes Wilder back and hurt him with that right hand, Wilder would never beat him.

[champion4ever]

Wilder just needs to stick to what got him to the dance. There was no need for him to change anything. He is what he is and that is a gifted puncher.

[GhostofDempsey]

Wasn’t he 215 for the second fight? So he was too light and his costume was too heavy among other endless excuses, now we was too heavy for the third fight? I think this idiot may have suffered some real brain damage in those losses to Fury. He is still on some tinfoil hat conspiracy about Fury cheating. He can’t accept these humiliating losses, his ego is too fragile.

[elfag]

Wilder-Fury IV: Goldilocks vs Golaith

The second fight she was too small
The third fight she was too big

The fourth fight she will be just right and get her vengeance

[BodyBagz]

Seriously, losers need to zip it.
Nothing worse than a loser trying to explain why they lost with excuses


.......even if the other guy was allowed to be dirty.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Wasn’t he 215 for the second fight? So he was too light and his costume was too heavy among other endless excuses, now we was too heavy for the third fight? I think this idiot may have suffered some real brain damage in those losses to Fury. He is still on some tinfoil hat conspiracy about Fury cheating. He can’t accept these humiliating losses, his ego is too fragile.

I think he was 231 pounds for the rematch.

During the first fight he was below 220 pounds.

I don't think Wilder is making excuses, he is explaining something he has learnt about is preparation.

Nobody can deny that he came to win, and left no stone upturned for the Tyson Fury trilogy.

Wilder transformed his physique, went into the unknown. It nearly worked out, but Tyson Fury just found a way to counter act his efforts.

There is nothing fragile about Wilder's attitude. He is defiant, and he is still defiant which confuses people. So they mock it.

The trilogy only happened, because of Wilder's refusal to go away. His defiance, the traits people mock him for.

His attitude is unusual to them, because on any given day 'They are probably surrounded by normal people'.

None of these boxers are normal everyday people, in terms of attitude. That is why he has achieved, what he has achieved.

Maybe lesser fighters would of retired, but here he is again 'Back and wanting to go to battle'.

With a competitor like Wilder, the competition is never really over.

[War Room]

Always with the excuses. Rooting for him to lose against Helenius.

[GhostofDempsey]

I think he was 231 pounds for the rematch.

During the first fight he was below 220 pounds.

I don't think Wilder is making excuses, he is explaining something he has learnt about is preparation.

Nobody can deny that he came to win, and left no stone upturned for the Tyson Fury trilogy.

Wilder transformed his physique, went into the unknown. It nearly worked out, but Tyson Fury just found a way to counter act his efforts.

There is nothing fragile about Wilder's attitude. He is defiant, and he is still defiant which confuses people. So they mock it.

The trilogy only happened, because of Wilder's refusal to go away. His defiance, the traits people mock him for.

His attitude is unusual to them, because on any given day 'They are probably surrounded by normal people'.

None of these boxers are normal everyday people, in terms of attitude. That is why he has achieved, what he has achieved.

Maybe lesser fighters would of retired, but here he is again 'Back and wanting to go to battle'.

With a competitor like Wilder, the competition is never really over.

Nothing fragile? He's made endless excuses for his losses. Calling Fury a cheat, blaming a 40 pound costume, blaming his first trainer, blaming the referee, racism, and a slew of other pathetic excuses for his losses to Fury. The guy was mentally unstable prior to the Fury fights, he's now gone completely over the edge. He's back into battle because there is easier pickings to help heal his wounded ego.