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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #11
    Originally posted by Jab jab boom
    why are you so sensitive? Is it not accurate that bigger fighters in any division can generally endure more punishment than a smaller opponent? Is he not massive for the division? Have we not seen him take punishment but outlast his smaller opponents? What exactly are you debating
    If he is massive for the division then he should be weight-drained and at a disadvantage, right? So far no one has been able to make him pay for it though.

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    • Jab jab boom
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      #12
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

      If he is massive for the division then he should be weight-drained and at a disadvantage, right? So far no one has been able to make him pay for it though.
      being big for a weight class doesn’t mean he’s weight drained. Especially when the fighter is only 24 yrs old. You’re literally trying to argue that a 6’5 junior mw isn’t massive for the division. Stop it. You’re embarrassing yourself.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Jab jab boom
        being big for a weight class doesn’t mean he’s weight drained. Especially when the fighter is only 24 yrs old. You’re literally trying to argue that a 6’5 junior mw isn’t massive for the division. Stop it. You’re embarrassing yourself.
        You seem dead set on diminishing what he has accomplished just because of his size. I'm dead set against that...as long as he can make the weight legally then he needs to get his full credit.

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          #14
          Too bad Fundora is criticized from using plaster inside the glove despite that he has demonstrated to have power prior to the Erickson Lubin fight.

          Also, he is called a weight bully when the guy never missed weight and stated that he walks around 160 pounds (73kg).

          Last five fights
          Fundora-Lubin: 152.8 (68.3kg)
          Fundora-Garcia: 153.3 (69.5kg)
          Fundora-Cota: 152.0 (68.9kg)
          Fundora-Ahmed: 153.0 (69.4kg)
          Fundora-Gallimore: 153.0 (69.4kg)

          If the guy were truly a weight bully, he would have fainted in the scale until now or have massive stamina issues.
          Last edited by Malvado; 10-02-2022, 04:24 PM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            You seem dead set on diminishing what he has accomplished just because of his size. I'm dead set against that...as long as he can make the weight legally then he needs to get his full credit.
            what did I say that diminishes him. All I said was his size has allowed him to endure punishment in the weight class and his smaller opponents can’t withstand what he’s dishing out as well as a result. Is that not what’s happening? Are you watching some Roy Jones level offensive talent combined with Whitaker defense on your end? I’m not. I’m seeing a big guy who applies effective pressure who takes clean shots that he can withstand and eventually wearing down smaller opponents. That’s not diminishing anything. That’s an accurate observation of what’s happening in the ring. Especially in the Lubin fight.
            Last edited by Jab jab boom; 10-02-2022, 06:00 PM.

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              #16
              It may be premature to say this because boxing is a tough game, but in Fundora, I see potential for all time greatness. Why? Because he's a freak, but a freak with tremendous work ethic. U can see his focus, his mindset, his determination, he's not lazy, he's a work horse. Also, he's humble and wants to keep improving. He doesn't have a big head or any of the mental weaknesses u see in some gifted fighters. He's only 24, and he has the ability to go up several weight classes b4 it's all over. So I see a very high ceiling for this kid, if he keeps training hard like he does. Skill-wise, he can do a lot in the ring, but his temperament in the ring is just as impressive. Relaxed, always pressuring and attacking. Very mean and to the point, doesn't play any games. When the bell rings, u know u have a real fight on ur hands. U can't lay back and look cute, u can't con him, stall him, or bs ur way through the rounds. U have to fight him, or get beat up. U can't move too much- that will just wear u out faster, because he's too rangy. And plus u need all ur legs to fight him off u, so running is pointless. U can clinch if u want, but he's very strong on the inside, so he'll land all kinds of shots in close. Basically, he's a stylistic nightmare and a problem to be solved for anyone in or around his weight division at this point, and his career looks bright
              Last edited by archiemoore1; 10-02-2022, 10:22 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                yeah shakur missed weight and now he’s moving up. Canelo missed weight and he changed the contracted weight 1 day before the fight. Benavidez missed weight and since he’s come back and made it. There are 100s of examples of that but still irrelevant to my point because I never said he couldn’t make weight. I said he’s oversized for the division (probably the biggest guy in the history of the division) and as a result can take more punishment than his opponents. Is that not accurate or do you see a defensive specialist when you watch him fight?
                Fundora said he walks around 159 and makes weight easily. His weigh in was 152.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by LeOoze

                  Fundora said he walks around 159 and makes weight easily. His weigh in was 152.
                  I don’t care what he says. None of us know the truth but what’s true is he’s about 6’6 fighting at 154. He’s a big guy for the division regardless.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by El Escorpion
                    Too bad Fundora is criticized from using plaster inside the glove despite that he has demonstrated to have power prior to the Erickson Lubin fight.

                    Also, he is called a weight bully when the guy never missed weight and stated that he walks around 160 pounds (73kg).

                    Last five fights
                    Fundora-Lubin: 152.8 (68.3kg)
                    Fundora-Garcia: 153.3 (69.5kg)
                    Fundora-Cota: 152.0 (68.9kg)
                    Fundora-Ahmed: 153.0 (69.4kg)
                    Fundora-Gallimore: 153.0 (69.4kg)

                    If the guy were truly a weight bully, he would have fainted in the scale until now or have massive stamina issues.
                    Fundora had plaster in his glove???? When? I know about Margarito doing so, but not Fundora.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by archiemoore1
                      It may be premature to say this because boxing is a tough game, but in Fundora, I see potential for all time greatness. Why? Because he's a freak, but a freak with tremendous work ethic. U can see his focus, his mindset, his determination, he's not lazy, he's a work horse. Also, he's humble and wants to keep improving. He doesn't have a big head or any of the mental weaknesses u see in some gifted fighters. He's only 24, and he has the ability to go up several weight classes b4 it's all over. So I see a very high ceiling for this kid, if he keeps training hard like he does. Skill-wise, he can do a lot in the ring, but his temperament in the ring is just as impressive. Relaxed, always pressuring and attacking. Very mean and to the point, doesn't play any games. When the bell rings, u know u have a real fight on ur hands. U can't lay back and look cute, u can't con him, stall him, or bs ur way through the rounds. U have to fight him, or get beat up. U can't move too much- that will just wear u out faster, because he's too rangy. And plus u need all ur legs to fight him off u, so running is pointless. U can clinch if u want, but he's very strong on the inside, so he'll land all kinds of shots in close. Basically, he's a stylistic nightmare and a problem to be solved for anyone in or around his weight division at this point, and his career looks bright
                      He got a decent win against a fragile Lubin. Hell, he was beaten by Garcia but got a robbery decision his way. But you think he's an ATG in waiting?

                      I don't see it myself. Let him beat some actual world class opponents before making these kinds of predictions for him.

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