Shame for Joe Joyce this is not 90s anymore

[JakeTheBoxer]

Even old Foreman was able to win a world title. Joyce is much bigger and stronger man. They have a very similar style, like a mummy, slow as f.uck.

I am pretty sure Joyce could have beaten old Mike Tyson, past prime Holyfield, and he would have more than enough power to knock Moorer out.

90-s is pretty overrated era, as I said many times.

[TMLT87]

As much as I like George, lets be honest the title win was kind of a fluke. And he got the shot coming off of a loss too. Its not like he was picking up tons of high level wins back then. But yeah, if George could do it Joyce would too. Cant see Joyce losing to Tommy Morrison either, its a stylistic disaster for Tommy.

Overall the 90s was clearly a better era though. Fury and Usyk are the only guys that look like they would be consistent top 5 level back then. AJ and Wilder maybe fringe top 10. Guys like Whyte, Parker, Ruiz and old man Ortiz more like 20-25.

[Good ol' Douglas]

Joyce, like all modern elite super-heavyweights, destroy their predecessors.

I see nobody arguing that 185 lbs Marciano would be competitive with 220 lbs Foreman.

[Dr. Z]

Joyce, like all modern elite super-heavyweights, destroy their predecessors.

I see nobody arguing that 185 lbs Marciano would be competitive with 220 lbs Foreman.

I would sat that, the 90's had lots of talent. Super elite heavyweights would beat the fighters in general for 60+ years ago though. They are still rare today.

Joyce isn't elite on skills but his durability is. Six times the average bone density. Wow -- he's got a hard head and body. Most other normal men tested out and most as three times normal at least they did on the UK rugby team.

[Good ol' Douglas]

I would sat that, the 90's had lots of talent. Super elite heavyweights would beat the fighters in general for 60+ years ago though. They are still rare today.

Joyce isn't elite on skills but his durability is. Six times the average bone density. Wow -- he's got a hard head and body. Most other normal men tested out and most as three times normal at least they did on the UK rugby team.

Joyce's technical skills are underrated. Good footwork and distance management, one of the best jabs in the division and an awkward rhythm/timing.

The comparisons with Foreman are superficial and disrespectful to The Juggernaut.

[BodyBagz]

We are stuck with beyond terrible HW's

Every other era has better fighters.

These present day HWs are big plodding goofballs.

No skill to be found.

Size is not a skill.

[Dr. Z]

Joyce's technical skills are underrated. Good footwork and distance management, one of the best jabs in the division and an awkward rhythm/timing.

The comparisons with Foreman are superficial and disrespectful to The Juggernaut.

He was out jabbed and way behind in the Dubios fight until Dubious quit, but go on and compare his jab to Foreman.

[PRINCEKOOL]

All this talk of Super Heavyweights. Usyk is not a Super Heavyweight and he is ranked number 2 right now. I cannot rank him at number 1, until he beats Tyson Fury.

The overall skill level of the fighters in the 90's was higher. You can become a Champion in today's heavyweight era with flaws, and serve lack of skill in certain area's 'I don't think that would happen in the 90's'. Go and check all of the champions, they were all complete fighters.

Tyson Fury is the only heavyweight at elite level in today's area, that has shown evidence that he can fight in all area's. He is not super great in all area's, but he gives it a go. All the other fighters seem to specialize or have specific strengths in one area 'And then lack in other parts of their game'.

Joshua is a elite level fighter, but he lacks inside game and the ability to fight a good big man styled fight 'He struggles to actually fight like a super heavyweight'.

But regardless I still rate today's Heavyweight division as the best overall division in boxing.

George Foreman won a world title due to his resolve, power and tactics. He had the power still to change the direction of the fight in a instant. Experience also probably won him that fight vs Moorer 'Moorer was a high level fighter skill for skill'.

[Good ol' Douglas]

He was out jabbed and way behind in the Dubios fight until Dubious quit, but go on and compare his jab to Foreman.

Joyce literally won that fight by jabbing Dubois' head off to the point he had to quit.

The judges were biasedly favouring the A-side, amazing observation. Try actually scoring it yourself.

Foreman is overrated asf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxYPFq_06ZM

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