I calculated the heavyweight with the biggest KO to stoppage ratio in modern boxing

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  • Pugilist89
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    #11
    Does Earnie Shavers live up to his reputation?`....................... Yes he does: The percentage score: 45 out of 69= 65.22%.

    That makes him best since the glove limit size of today, if my understanding is correct.
    Last edited by Pugilist89; 09-30-2022, 04:29 PM.

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      #12
      The question didn't seem too clear. What you are referring to are clean KOs divided by (KOs + TKOs)? What if someone got up at 8 but the ref waved it off because he was stumbling around - does that count as a KO to you? The guy was obviously not unconscious, but the ref waved it off similar to a TKO but I'm pretty sure it goes in the books as a KO instead of a TKO.

      Aside from some questionable stoppages, a TKO is just the ref saving the fighter from what is about to be a clean KO. So much of it is based on who the ref is, which era (acceptable punishment), etc.

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        #13
        Originally posted by buge
        The question didn't seem too clear. What you are referring to are clean KOs divided by (KOs + TKOs)? What if someone got up at 8 but the ref waved it off because he was stumbling around - does that count as a KO to you? The guy was obviously not unconscious, but the ref waved it off similar to a TKO but I'm pretty sure it goes in the books as a KO instead of a TKO.

        Aside from some questionable stoppages, a TKO is just the ref saving the fighter from what is about to be a clean KO. So much of it is based on who the ref is, which era (acceptable punishment), etc.

        There is no grey area. KO is when the fighter is counted out, or did not get up at all.

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          #14
          Originally posted by buge
          a TKO is just the ref saving the fighter from what is about to be a clean KO. So much of it is based on who the ref is, which era (acceptable punishment), etc.
          Not neccesarily. Frazier was capable of contuining being Foremans punch dummy in their first fight. He wasn't about to be Koed.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Pugilist89

            Not neccesarily. Frazier was capable of contuining being Foremans punch dummy in their first fight. He wasn't about to be Koed.
            I haven't seen that fight in a long time, but wasn't he looking wobbly and weak the last time he stood up?

            If an old Foreman could knock out Michael Moorer, I can only imagine the punching damage of a prime Foreman.

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              #16
              This is more to do with the referees in these fights than the fighter. If the ref doesn’t stop it, I think in most cases we get a KO soon after.

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              • Good ol' Douglas
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                #17
                Originally posted by Pugilist89
                Based on my scrutiny of KO artists, anything around 40% is "good or decent".

                Deontay Wilder has 20 KOs out of 41 stoppages for a KO to stoppage ratio of 48%.

                Rocky Marciano 23 out of 43 - 53%
                Shannon Briggs 23 out of 43%

                Samuel peter 10 out of 31 32%

                Mike Tyson 15 out 44 34% -- suprisingly weakish.
                You have failed to account for average opponent size.

                Imagine Wilder going up against blown-up LHWs constantly.

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                  #18
                  No Archie Moore ?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Pugilist89

                    Not neccesarily. Frazier was capable of contuining being Foremans punch dummy in their first fight. He wasn't about to be Koed.


                    he was dropped 6 times in only 2 rounds. Who cares if Fraizer could have gotten up again after the 6th time if the ref let him, he would still get put out eventually. I mean the ref was either goign to stop it or he gets knocked out cold. he wasnt going 12 thats for sure. So the guy saying the ref didnt prevent him getting knocked out for the 10 count is wrong, that was next.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Good ol' Douglas

                      You have failed to account for average opponent size.

                      Imagine Wilder going up against blown-up LHWs constantly.


                      this. marciano was like 185 pounds, he was smaller than kovalev, lmao. Imagine wilder with those guys he is sparking out those manlets left and right.

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