Explain how floyd weighing more than JMM produces the results we saw.

**Spacey1991** · 09-21-2009, 03:58 PM

Originally posted by Kalion

How did floyd weighing more than JMM dictate the outcome of the fight more than the fact that floyd is leagues better techinally, 5x faster and on a defense level JMM hasnt come close to seeing?

The extra weight would have only benefitted floyd 2 ways, more power and more resilance to JMM punches.

JMM wasnt knocked out so obviously PBF wasnt so big and strong he couldnt hang with him.

JMM also didnt and a single meaningfull punch the entire fight. So you cant say PBF was so big he couldnt hurt him.

Ive also seen a few idiots coment about the reach advantage. Obviously youve never seen a Paul williams fight if you think floyd had a gross reach advanatge.

The weight didn't help, at all... JMM was at a pretty big disadvantage cause of it... but I am pretty sure that most of us would agree that Floyd made it clear that he was the better overall fighter in there anyway.

He performed very well for a guy who has had a 2 year layoff.

**Bhopreign** · 09-21-2009, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by Kalion

How did floyd weighing more than JMM dictate the outcome of the fight more than the fact that floyd is leagues better techinally, 5x faster and on a defense level JMM hasnt come close to seeing?

The extra weight would have only benefitted floyd 2 ways, more power and more resilance to JMM punches.

JMM wasnt knocked out so obviously PBF wasnt so big and strong he couldnt hang with him.

JMM also didnt and a single meaningfull punch the entire fight. So you cant say PBF was so big he couldnt hurt him.

Ive also seen a few idiots coment about the reach advantage. Obviously youve never seen a Paul williams fight if you think floyd had a gross reach advanatge.

Not much. They will claim the extra weight slowed JMM down, and they claim he looked slower at 135, but I beg to differ he looked fast at 135, knocked out two champs who never been knocked out before. But nobody has the defense, stamina, accuracy, and mind that Floyd has, when youre opponent throws a punch and you back up or are covered up like Floyd does, they dont know what to do.

**Chuckguy** · 09-21-2009, 04:05 PM

Nah we just keep it real
he went in with all the advantages and not making the agreed uponm weight was icing on the cake for Floyd. I think it was a ***** move but thats what you get when dealing with Floyd
One big Biatch

I think him taking on a green berto would have been a lot better for him
I think he was worried (not scared) that he would get caught by Berto and his super fast hands.

Either way JMM came out on top and is a winner regardless

I hope he forgets about Pac and goes back down and does what he does best against fair opposition.

You all can sig me on the following

THe only time I will ever cheer for Floyd is if he fights Pac then I would hope he knocks him out!

**MOREBASS** · 09-21-2009, 04:05 PM

Floyd likely would have had to dry out to cut the extra two pounds, and if you've ever had to cut weight before, you'll know that it can definitely affect your performance.

Although I don't think it would have made a huge difference in the outcome, it doesn't really matter, because he didn't make weight, and it was just another, in the long list of advantages he already had over Marquez.

LOL, what's ironic is that you people claiming the weight was not a factor, are probably some of the same people who cry about De La Hoya being weight drained for the Pacquiao fight.

**gancho_al_igado** · 09-21-2009, 04:07 PM

Floyd was winning this fight no matter the weight, people have a hard time believing Floyd is just straight up better skilled than a Good Marquez, they coulda fought years ago when Floyd was a lightweight and same result.

**2501** · 09-21-2009, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by Kalion

How did floyd weighing more than JMM dictate the outcome of the fight more than the fact that floyd is leagues better techinally, 5x faster and on a defense level JMM hasnt come close to seeing?

The extra weight would have only benefitted floyd 2 ways, more power and more resilance to JMM punches.

JMM wasnt knocked out so obviously PBF wasnt so big and strong he couldnt hang with him.

JMM also didnt and a single meaningfull punch the entire fight. So you cant say PBF was so big he couldnt hurt him.

Ive also seen a few idiots coment about the reach advantage. Obviously youve never seen a Paul williams fight if you think floyd had a gross reach advanatge.

You should watch more boxing and you'll get your answer.

**The Noose** · 09-21-2009, 04:08 PM

Weight has an affect on speed, movement, stamina, and ability to absorb punches.

It didnt seem an obvious factor in the way the fight played out, but weight is always a factor because it does have an impact on all those aspects of the game i listed.

If they had fought in their primes, at the same age at super feather weight the out come would have been the same.

IMO it wasnt just weight, but overall size, reach, and style that gave Floyd all the advantages before the bell had rung.

**HitBattousai** · 09-21-2009, 04:10 PM

For one, the fact that Floyd didn't drain himself to 144 as was contracted most likely helped his punch resistance, and Marquez did land some decent punches, but they barely moved Floyd, who appeared to have blown up to around 160 in the ring and did not let himself be weighed beforehand. Two, the extra weight did slow Marquez down, not much, but a noticeable amount, and it's very obvious that his punches didn't have the same power at 147. Lastly, the only reason Floyd didn't knock out Marquez is because he is a very safety-oriented fighter. Even though Marquez couldn't hurt him, Floyd didn't walk him down and knock him out as he should have, because he simply does not like to take risks at all. And Marquez is tough enough to survive Floyd pulling the potshot routine on him.

**Kalion** · 09-21-2009, 04:10 PM

Its crazy how it changes every 5 min. One second its the extra wieght PBF weigh which made the fight, the next it the extra JMM gained, the next its the weight that he didnt lose. But everyone is ignoring what PBF used to dominate the fight, it wasnt size or reach at all.

Explain how floyd weighing more than JMM produces the results we saw.