Had Floyd Knocked JMM Out It Would Have Gotten Less Credit

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  • RodBarker
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    #11
    Originally posted by Bhopreign
    Cotto/Pac wasnt even considered when Floyd signed to fight Marquez, just doesnt make sense. Pac wouldnt mind fighting Floyd I dont think, but its Arum I think who will either block it altogether or stall as long as possible through negotiations. They will say 50-50 or no fight, but Pac has to get through Cotto which isnt a given by no stretch of the imagination.
    I agree if it dont happen Arum will be the blocker , but then Roach and Arum will not want to get Pac beat and they both seen that Floyd will out speed their speedster , interesting what Floyd will do next and how the Pac Cotto fight pans out .

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      #12
      Originally posted by Bhopreign
      Cotto/Pac wasnt even considered when Floyd signed to fight Marquez, just doesnt make sense. Pac wouldnt mind fighting Floyd I dont think, but its Arum I think who will either block it altogether or stall as long as possible through negotiations. They will say 50-50 or no fight, but Pac has to get through Cotto which isnt a given by no stretch of the imagination.

      No dobut, Pacquiao has his work cut out for him. But I don't think Arum is stubborn enough to let what at this point would be the biggest fight in boxing, not happen.

      Regardless, I still believe that Marquez was hand picked by Team Mayweather, because after all, it was essentially a return fight as well as a 'tune-up' fight, in setting up a big money mega-fight with whoever might bring the most money to the table.

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        #13
        Originally posted by RodBarker
        I agree if it dont happen Arum will be the blocker , but then Roach and Arum will not want to get Pac beat and they both seen that Floyd will out speed their speedster , interesting what Floyd will do next and how the Pac Cotto fight pans out .
        A potential Mayweather-Pacquiao fight would absolutely be the biggest fight possible. No way in hell Arum let's that one fall through.

        As far as your claim that they would not allow the fight to happen based on the Marquez fight, I couldn't disagree more. Since when have Roach or Arum turned a risky fight down for Manny?

        Remember he was supposed to be absolutely demolished by Oscar?

        They took the fight anyways.

        Ricky Hatton was invincible at 140, and much too big and strong for Manny.

        They took the fight anyways.


        The Marquez fight did not change anyone's perception about Mayweather. We knew he was lightning quick, we knew he was a defensive mastermind, and most of us knew he was going to beat the **** out of Marquez, easily.

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        • AssasinKing
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          #14
          If floyd dominated like 9 rounds or so, and then KO'd JMM, he would of showed he can play around and ko him.....but anyway was a ****** fight...the weight difference was ridiculous

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          • Bhopreign
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            #15
            Originally posted by MOREBASS
            Remember he was supposed to be absolutely demolished by Oscar?

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            Really? Roach knew Oscar was drained, besides, the bettors didnt see it as the mismatch you say it was, Oscar was only a 2-1 favorite, while Floyd was a 4 and a halft to 1 favorite against Marquez.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Bhopreign
              Really? Roach knew Oscar was drained, besides, the bettors didnt see it as the mismatch you say it was, Oscar was only a 2-1 favorite, while Floyd was a 4 and a halft to 1 favorite against Marquez.
              He ended up a 2-1 favorite, but that wasn't until the money on Pacquiao started to really pour in. I know because I won a lot of money on that fight, and watched the lines carefully. LOL


              But just about every boxing writer, as well as the general consensus on this very board, were that Manny was going to get sc****d badly.

              Floyd stayed a 4-1 favorite because, well...no one was willing to bet on Marquez even with odds like that...and rightfully so.

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              • RodBarker
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                #17
                Originally posted by MOREBASS
                A potential Mayweather-Pacquiao fight would absolutely be the biggest fight possible. No way in hell Arum let's that one fall through.

                As far as your claim that they would not allow the fight to happen based on the Marquez fight, I couldn't disagree more. Since when have Roach or Arum turned a risky fight down for Manny?

                Remember he was supposed to be absolutely demolished by Oscar?

                They took the fight anyways.

                Ricky Hatton was invincible at 140, and much too big and strong for Manny.

                They took the fight anyways.


                The Marquez fight did not change anyone's perception about Mayweather. We knew he was lightning quick, we knew he was a defensive mastermind, and most of us knew he was going to beat the **** out of Marquez, easily.
                Roach knew Oscar couldnt make that weight better than anyone on earth , that fight would have been illegal in the business world for its insider trading .

                Hatton wasnt invincible at 140 thats a ridicules statement Hatton is a hype job that Floyd exposed at the same weight Hatton beat Castillo and then Hatton also had issues on top of he just aint good enough .

                I just dont think they will look at Floyd the same way , he aint lost nothing and like Floyd said it was my first back I can be better .

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by RodBarker
                  Roach knew Oscar couldnt make that weight better than anyone on earth , that fight would have been illegal in the business world for its insider trading .

                  Hatton wasnt invincible at 140 thats a ridicules statement Hatton is a hype job that Floyd exposed at the same weight Hatton beat Castillo and then Hatton also had issues on top of he just aint good enough .

                  I just dont think they will look at Floyd the same way , he aint lost nothing and like Floyd said it was my first back I can be better .

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                  Oscar had no problem making 147, just as he had no problem making 150 months prior. Why he didn't rehydrate to about 159-160 overnight is why he looked so bad in the ring. That and who he was fighting of course.

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