Comments Thread For: Stevenson-Conceicao Fight Averaged 1,097,000 Viewers On ESPN, Peaked At 1,150,000

[killakali]

Andy Ruiz has been a fat ass his whole life, he made the Mexican Olympic team being a fat ass. He won the world title and made history doing it taking it from the champion…while being a fat ass. Crawford sold out arenas hahahahahaha arenas where??? Show me the link of the articles. The only ok numbers he did were in Omaha..his hometown. Fighters that sale out arenas are Cánelo, Joshua, etc fighters can sell out places they’re not even from. And if Top Rank would’ve done a “great job” like you said with Crawford , Crawford would’ve never left the company and bashed Bob arum to his face like he did. Top Rank is good at starting a fighter…while robbing them blind. Hence why De la joya went solo and built his own company. Same reason why Mayweather signed with Al Haymon. Same reason why Cotto made his own promotional company. Same reason why even Pacquiao left Top Rank for Al Haymon. Same reason why zurdo Ramírez went with golden boy. It’s hilarious when ignorant idiots like you wanna preach but know nothing about boxing and it’s business

Crawford sold out da Mandalay Bay vs Shawn Porter doe. Did over 10k vs Jeff Horn in Las Vegas too doe

[Duran1333]

Awful numbers. HBO was doing 1 million views despite being in way less households than ESPN. No one has built stars since HBO left boxing. We need HBO back in boxing. Now that HBO has become a gutter network, catering to the tik tok crowd, Boxing will fit with HBO better than ever.

It's ironic, HBO got rid of Boxing because it didn't jive with their more cultured brand, only for HBO to quickly become an even more uncultured brand than boxing. You now have grosser crap happening in the majority of HBO shows than ever happened on an HBO Boxing telecast.

HBO, if you're going to show simulated necrophilia in even your Emmy winning shows (which shows what a sewer nest the Emmy's are now too), then you can show Boxing too! Even the grossest Boxing cuts and injuries are not half as gross as most of your original series lately! #BringBackHBOBoxing but first #BringBacktherealHBO instead of this gross woke tiktok necrophilia crap.

Sureeeee they are. Cope likes boy, cope. Shakur is a star, and those numbers are very, very strong.

[IAMTHAT]

47% of the U.S. population lives in the eastern time zone but for some reason the morons who run boxing and the UFC think it's a great idea to start every main event at midnight.

Drives me nuts … the importance of going to sleep on time cannot be overstated, and yet these promoters don’t seem to understand this.

nothing good happens after 10 pm

[MexicanFistology]

Crawford sold out da Mandalay Bay vs Shawn Porter doe. Did over 10k vs Jeff Horn in Las Vegas too doe

Exactly! You said it yourself. Sold out Mandalay Bay against Shawn Porter who RESIDES in Vegas. Shawn already has a huge following. So did Jeff Horn because of that robbery win against Pacquiao. And Crawford barely cracked 10k there. Canelo cracks 50k in Texas and he ain’t even from there. Now tell me another arena where Crawford cracked more than 20k here in the United States..where he’s from

[Boxing Logic]

Sureeeee they are. Cope likes boy, cope. Shakur is a star, and those numbers are very, very strong.

"He's a star" you sound like a public relations guy or something trying to hype this guy's brand. Shakur has this feminine weasel quality to him where I doubt he will ever appeal to mainstream sports fans. He doesn't have the looks like Oscar or Floyd or GGG. In fact something seem wrong with him the way he talks and acts and his body language. I was shocked to hear 9,000 went to his fight but that's his home town and probably half of those tickets were given away. They keep trying to promote him as super fast or super this or that but he doesnt look faster or slicker than the average guy with that style. He's fast yes, but so were Chad Dawson, Caleb Plant, Erickson Lubin, and a million other guys especially at lightweight. Neither he or Haney have that x factor like a Floyd, RJJ, Loma, or Zab Judah who really had beautiful speed. Zab at his peak was way more talented than Stevenson. I think he is going to lose a lot of people a lot of money constantly paying for air time to promote him, looking for a pay off. He's going to empty investors wallets the same way Andre Ward did, but Ward at least looked and talked in a way with more mainstream appeal. Stevenson talks more like a weirdo, the type of guy if your family is in the room, you change the channel away from his fights, you don't watch it together. He repels viewers away, he doesn't bring them in.

The guy at lightweight who will be bringing in all the cheddar the next few years is Lomachenko if they match him with the right B-sides. If Loma goes on a winning streak vs Haney, Stevenson, Ryan Garcia, Tank, and Teofimo Lopez, all those fights will sell out arenas and do big ratings, especially as the winning streak builds. Vs Tank it might even do really good PPV buys. But you put most those guys with each other, or make one of them the A-side, and it's not going to multiply or generate buzz or crossover.

In fact probably 75% of a lot of these guys fanbases is that they are Loma haters. Stevenson and Devin Haney will be big stars for one night only of their careers, losing to Lomachenko, because all the Lomachenko haters will be eager to watch Loma fights where they think he has a chance to lose. But once Loma loses again and is out of the picture, no one will really care about those guys. There's a reason most the build up and interest in them came about when Loma was the champion. Loma is the star in that division around which everything orbits, he just doesnt sell big PPV buys because he doesnt have interesting opponents most of the time, and because many of his fans are outside the US. His haters will buy the PPV but they want to pay to see their guy fight him and hope he will win, and Teofimo wasn't their guy. But once he's out of the picture, they wont care about their guy either. They pay for the combination of their guy + fighting Loma who they hate. They don't pay for just Loma, and they don't pay for just their guy.

I think the way GGG's career turned out really turned off a lot of boxing fans in general as well. There are a lot of people who would buy Loma's PPVs but then they think, "you know what, I cant trust this sport, they're just going to screw him over anyway, Im not going to pay to support such corruption" and stuff like that. Whereas if the corruption is always favoring Floyd or Andre Ward, then their fans might take the risk of paying for the PPV more often because they're not used to getting screwed over when they do it. That doesnt mean Loma actually sells less PPV buys than some of these guys, it just means the buyers need to see a track record of them not being screwed over, the same way Floyd fans got a track record year after year, big fight after big fight, of not being screwed over. Then they will see it's safe to start buying the PPVs again.

[Boxing Logic]

Hbo got out of the boxing business because with did t have anymore stars in the sport and therefore didn’t have anymore
compelling fights. They didn’t have ANY American stars at all and sought to have stars who were Eastern Europeans and Mexicans and that just didn’t work. Had they had access to pbc stars it would have been different.

They can have access to plenty of new fighters now if they want to come back to boxing, but that's not relevant because your premise is wrong in the first place. When HBO went out of business, they had the two top American P4P fighters on their network, Andre Ward and Terence Crawford, as well as the number one Mexican star, Canelo, and they built up a >1 mil PPV with him and an eastern european that they built up in GGG.

PBC has still never created a PPV seller as big as the eastern euro GGG when he fought Canelo. None of PBC's Americans have done PPV numbers vs Canelo as high as the eastern euro GGG did.

So your premise is backwards. HBO invested way less money into Boxing than PBC, but they turned out way bigger stars, even though they came from eastern europe. Imagine if GGG and the others had gotten the full financial backing of the establishment the way the PBC fighters did, then the gap would have been even bigger, they would have been even bigger bigger stars than the PBC guys.

So as I said, what you said is totally backwards from reality, no offense. You are listening too much to anti-white, racist/ignorant boxing youtubers and social media personalities, no offense. Their whole game is to take literally any situation in Boxing and then make up some anti-white narrative they pull out of their butts, and then they all repeat whatever narrative sticks. Don't fall for that crap. If you want the real story of why HBO went out of business, it was because of the Time Warner merger and the fact HBO was having to compete with netflix in the streaming wars, and they wanted to devote all their air time to have more original series that people would stream, and all of their budget to creating original series, instead of boxing, because boxing is much more niche compared to being able to create more Game of Thrones and stuff like that.

Makes sense, right? Nothing to do with any of the bullcrap you have heard from these racists. HBO built up so many American boxers you cant even count. They built up just a couple eastern euros, which was a huge success story. They took GGG and Loma and Kovalev and Usyk from nowhere, and helped make all of them but Kovalev into big stars. It's crazy to imagine their big success stories put them out of business. That doesnt make any sense on any level, including that you have to not pay attention to Showtime either to believe something like that. Showtime also mostly got out of boxing and sent most the fights to Fox and CBS and sht. But Showtime dont have "showtime max" like HBO max, they are not as heavily involved in the streaming wars with netflix, or as known for their original series, so for whatever reason they decided to keep a small footprint in boxing. HBO shut down for good, Showtime shut down 80% or some crap. Neither of them did it because of eastern euros, lol. PBC would love to have promoted GGG that's why they offered him a huge deal to come over to PBC but lost out to DAZN lol. I mean come on man. And who wouldnt love to have Loma on their promotional roster, or Usyk, or even Kovalev, arguably the number one ight heavyweight between the end of BHop's time and whoever will claim it now between Bivol and Beterbiev, and the guy who carried the entire Main Events promotion on his back in the US even though he was from Russia. Those channels are just racist haters because you have to be hating to take a success story and pretend like it's a failure. Those guys kept HBO Boxing alive as long as it was alive. The very last guy HBO promoted just for a couple fights was Dmitry Bivol, the guy who just knocked off Canelo the cash cow of boxing. The seeds HBO Boxing planted are still growing into the best trees even now. That's why they should come back.