Comments Thread For: Hearn on Fury-Joshua Negotiations: There is Still A lot To Be Done

[Oldskoolg]

Is Hearn accusing them of anything illegal?

It doesn’t matter. A lie is a lie and if the goal of the lie is to effect income than there’s the case. There is a difference between civil law and violations of state/federal penal code. Your question introduces speculation of criminal intent, that has nothing to do with tort law

[REMOVE SHARK 5510]

So Fury's team sent some bs contract that makes no sense and now they can say AJ is ducking if he don't sign and Fury will fight Charr?

[Apollo7]

It doesn’t matter. A lie is a lie and if the goal of the lie is to effect income than there’s the case. There is a difference between civil law and violations of state/federal penal code. Your question introduces speculation of criminal intent, that has nothing to do with tort law

Is the goal of his statement to effect income though? I thought he was saying it to save face if the fight falls through.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Fury's fans are gullible just the way he likes them. Fury needs to man up and get the fight made. Aj is coming off 3 losses in 4 fights (Something like that anyway). No way did Fury think AJ would take the fight, and not at 60/40. Fury is still scared of the "robotic bodybuilder". Pathetic

[thack]

This is Hearn's only way of trying to be relevant here , when we all know he's not.

[RoadMan94]

When you’re concentrating on Eddie Hearn’s ears going red, is this the moment that you’re on the vinegar stroke?

Yaaaaawwwwnnnnn…………

[RoadMan94]

Who do you know personally in all this? You seem quite invested when it comes to these guys.

Fury camp, Grown up with Shane and known him my whole life know his uncles and father, and siblings.

Also know People who work for 258. They’re good people and don’t have a bad word to say about those lads.

It’s a common thing us humans do when lying. There’s a lot of signs to look for. I just listed a quick one that was most obvious to spot.

I wanna make clear, I have the upmost respect for Anthony Joshua. I believe the man wants to fight and I’ve lathered him with praise and respect for this fact.

People seem to ignore the fact that all Eddie success comes from Joshua. Joshua is the meal ticket for Matchroom. Canelo will come and go. The bread winner is Joshua.

Eddie doesn’t like the thought of rebuilding Joshua off 3 straight losses. To him it’s catastrophic. He’s repeatedly told Joshua to not take the fight.

All this Charr talk is ridiculous and anyone in boxing worth a grain of salt know it. Eddie knows it but he needs a way out of this.

That’s all this is. What I will say is that right now, it’s more likely the fight happens than not, but this is something that could fall apart just as quick too.

Eddies comments have actually surprised involved parties. They really thought everyone was eager to make this happen.

Eddie has been treat with upmost respect throughout All of this and he’s not really reciprocating it.

The fact anybody can even attempt to say fury doesn’t want Joshua to accept is hilarious and shows they’ve never ever fought one professional fight or had to partake in negotiations.

The offer is unequivocally fair. Eddie can’t blame Joshua rejecting the fight on the details of the offfer. So his main go to is a smear campaign.

The funnies part is Eddie openly admits his audience are easy to manipulate he’s done this on and off camera.

Some people on here seem to think these people are the illuminati and are never in gyms/ shows, black tie events, charity dos etc up and down the U.K.

Just because Joshua says I accept doesn’t mean he’s taken the fight. We can say he has when he signs. But he can’t sign if he’s constantly told the contract needs changing etc.

why else do you think Eddie is trying his best to stall things? Like you all forgot him sticking deadlines on Eubank to sign to fight GGG. Go back and listen to Eddie discuss the contract and now listen to him discuss this contract.

if you can’t be bothered too, that’s fair enough but I’d have to see you like I do 85% of this place. Which is a Lazy poster without substance.


EDIT: I’ve openly admitted I’m invested in several occasions too, I don’t want to hide that as it would be shythousery

Woah, sorry about the newspaper!!

[RoadMan94]

Is the goal of his statement to effect income though? I thought he was saying it to save face if the fight falls through.

That’s what he’s doing in my opinion. 100000% that’s what he’s doing. He needs an out. I’ve met Eddie a few times and been in a room with him I wanna say a good 20+ times. That guy relies on Joshua wether people wanna believe it or not he does.

Of course he has his domestic fighters but most of them stayed with sky. Eddie doesn’t want to be stuck with domestic dust ups. He loves the big nights just like a fighter would.

AJ and Canelo has given him a taste of that. Canelo will be gone soon to fight Benavidez so if AJ isn’t that guy anymore, who is? Certainly not Conor Benn, is it?

I mean Eddie in the last couple weeks made clear he cares about Joshua the most. That’s why fighters cannot get a date but Joshua deffo gets one.

Eddie isn’t too keen on talented guys that don’t sell tickets. He’s a ticket seller. He’s not too bothered about his fighters going for greatness.

He is extremely arrogant. Fury throwing this deal to AJ looks like he’s given them a lifeline, but to Eddie he’s perceived it as Joshua is the man and Fury needs Joshua so we can fight fury in a year”

he isn’t getting Joshua probably won’t be capable of getting the fight in a year if fury beats usyk and retires (which he wants)

He can’t afford a loss to fury for Joshua. It’s as simple as that. When really he’s underestimating the public. They’d still back him, just wouldn’t see him as the number 1 fighter.

[Apollo7]

Fury camp, Grown up with Shane and known him my whole life know his uncles and father, and siblings.

Also know People who work for 258. They’re good people and don’t have a bad word to say about those lads.

It’s a common thing us humans do when lying. There’s a lot of signs to look for. I just listed a quick one that was most obvious to spot.

I wanna make clear, I have the upmost respect for Anthony Joshua. I believe the man wants to fight and I’ve lathered him with praise and respect for this fact.

People seem to ignore the fact that all Eddie success comes from Joshua. Joshua is the meal ticket for Matchroom. Canelo will come and go. The bread winner is Joshua.

Eddie doesn’t like the thought of rebuilding Joshua off 3 straight losses. To him it’s catastrophic. He’s repeatedly told Joshua to not take the fight.

All this Charr talk is ridiculous and anyone in boxing worth a grain of salt know it. Eddie knows it but he needs a way out of this.

That’s all this is. What I will say is that right now, it’s more likely the fight happens than not, but this is something that could fall apart just as quick too.

Eddies comments have actually surprised involved parties. They really thought everyone was eager to make this happen.

Eddie has been treat with upmost respect throughout All of this and he’s not really reciprocating it.

The fact anybody can even attempt to say fury doesn’t want Joshua to accept is hilarious and shows they’ve never ever fought one professional fight or had to partake in negotiations.

The offer is unequivocally fair. Eddie can’t blame Joshua rejecting the fight on the details of the offfer. So his main go to is a smear campaign.

The funnies part is Eddie openly admits his audience are easy to manipulate he’s done this on and off camera.

Some people on here seem to think these people are the illuminati and are never in gyms/ shows, black tie events, charity dos etc up and down the U.K.

Just because Joshua says I accept doesn’t mean he’s taken the fight. We can say he has when he signs. But he can’t sign if he’s constantly told the contract needs changing etc.

why else do you think Eddie is trying his best to stall things? Like you all forgot him sticking deadlines on Eubank to sign to fight GGG. Go back and listen to Eddie discuss the contract and now listen to him discuss this contract.

if you can’t be bothered too, that’s fair enough but I’d have to see you like I do 85% of this place. Which is a Lazy poster without substance.


EDIT: I’ve openly admitted I’m invested in several occasions too, I don’t want to hide that as it would be shythousery

Woah, sorry about the newspaper!!

Thanks for clarifying. It's interesting to know you may have some inside information even if understandably, you may be a bit pro Fury.

As far as who wants the fight and who doesn't, I keep an open mind. Both sides make their claims. I don't know the details of the contracts so it's impossible for me to place blame unless more details come out.

[RoadMan94]

Thanks for clarifying. It's interesting to know you may have some inside information even if understandably, you may be a bit pro Fury.

As far as who wants the fight and who doesn't, I keep an open mind. Both sides make their claims. I don't know the details of the contracts so it's impossible for me to place blame unless more details come out.

That’s what I’m trying to do still I won’t say AJ doesn’t want it because I believe he does. I think Joshua is at a point now where a loss is a loss isn’t it. He’s experienced it. To me that makes him very dangerous.

Either way, I wouldn’t mind having AJ accomplishments in life , not too shabby is it!!!