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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #21
    Originally posted by champion4ever

    He would give Fury Hell even if he does decide to fight off the back foot like he did against Klitschko because Joyce is a volume puncher. He would be in Fury's chest all night long throwing punches. Also, "The Juggernaut" is a very underrated body puncher also.

    Historically, volume puncher's have always fared well against graceful boxers. Klitschko and Wilder in Wilder/Fury I were boxer/sluggers. Which mean they mostly threw jabs with very low punch volumes just in order to land single hard punches at a time.
    Nah Fury is a lot faster, bigger in stature and has the better inside game so Joyce won’t be able to lean on him and wear him down like he did to Parker.

    He beats Joyce handily. Using angles is the way to beat Joyce because he comes forward in straight lines. Fury would do that.

    I’d also pick Usyk to beat him too, but it’s a much bigger ask for Usyk as he has to cope with the size mismatch. I can see Joyce winning that one, I can’t see him beating Fury though.

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      #22
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

      Nah Fury is a lot faster, bigger in stature and has the better inside game so Joyce won’t be able to lean on him and wear him down like he did to Parker.

      He beats Joyce handily. Using angles is the way to beat Joyce because he comes forward in straight lines. Fury would do that.

      I’d also pick Usyk to beat him too, but it’s a much bigger ask for Usyk as he has to cope with the size mismatch. I can see Joyce winning that one, I can’t see him beating Fury though.
      Well you may be right. However, I do know that Joyce won't make it easy for Tyson Fury due to his stamina, chin and volume punching. He never stops throwing punches. This guy is capable of walking through the flood gates of Hell and back.

      I still can't figure out how he was able to absorb and walk through all of those heavy shots by Joseph Parker without so much as flinching. Parker hit him harder than any other opponent I've ever seen and yet the man remained in front of him all night.

      He threw everything at him and still couldn't fight Joyce off of him. Sometimes it makes you wonder if he's even human. The man is very scary. It's almost like he is a monster or a freak of nature or something.

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        #23
        I doubt we'll see many guys calling him out.

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          #24
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
          He’s like a HW Froch. Poor technique, makes various fundamental errors, easy to hit etc etc but he has a granite chin, incredible toughness, a great engine and carries his power late into a fight.

          Fury has the size and boxing ability to neutralise him IMO. He’s a BIG problem for everyone else though.

          I’d love to see him fight Wilder, just to see how good that chin really is.
          Wilder would connect and probably put him down but then he would lose stamina and lose the will to win and get broken down humiliatingly

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            #25
            Originally posted by champion4ever
            Well you may be right. However, I do know that Joyce won't make it easy for Tyson Fury due to his stamina, chin and volume punching. He never stops throwing punches. This guy is capable of walking through the flood gates of Hell and back.

            I still can't figure out how he was able to absorb and walk through all of those heavy shots by Joseph Parker without so much as flinching. Parker hit him harder than any other opponent I've ever seen and yet the man remained in front of him all night.

            He threw everything at him and still couldn't fight Joyce off of him. Sometimes it makes you wonder if he's even human. The man is very scary. It's almost like he is a monster or a freak of nature or something.
            Joyce will make him work but I just don’t see him winning many rounds. It’s a very difficult fight for Joyce stylistically.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Pac=Duran

              Wilder would connect and probably put him down but then he would lose stamina and lose the will to win and get broken down humiliatingly
              Either Wilder ices him early or Joyce drowns him late. Very intriguing matchup.

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                #27
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                Well you may be right. However, I do know that Joyce won't make it easy for Tyson Fury due to his stamina, chin and volume punching. He never stops throwing punches. This guy is capable of walking through the flood gates of Hell and back.

                I still can't figure out how he was able to absorb and walk through all of those heavy shots by Joseph Parker without so much as flinching. Parker hit him harder than any other opponent I've ever seen and yet the man remained in front of him all night.

                He threw everything at him and still couldn't fight Joyce off of him. Sometimes it makes you wonder if he's even human. The man is very scary. It's almost like he is a monster or a freak of nature or something.
                I don't think Fury is super strong for his size, who has he actually bulled inside the ring? USS Cunningham, Wilder. I don't think he was bulling Whyte, who could hardly move by the time he fought Fury.

                When Fury faces Joyce, or even Joshua. Fury is not going to be able to bull them, especially not Joyce. Joyce has greater physical strength, and his endurance is greater. I have already highlighted the data from Fury's fights at elite level. Fury & Joshua are very close on out-put and work rate, Joshua for the most part is out working Fury 'But for some reason Fury is classed as some sort of endurance machine'.

                So stylistically it is a really interesting fight. But I would still say right now, that Fury would find a way to win.

                Fury will be hitting Joyce that is for sure, as the rounds go by? He will be collecting points. It will probably be a very damaging fight.

                I think currently right now Fury will view Joyce, the same way Calzaghe viewed Froch.


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                  #28
                  Best thing about Joyce is that heavy jab. With that he can give even Fury trouble, break him down, bloody him up to put him in position to offload his heavier punches later. Fury is big but has a peanut head. His chin might be overrated because of Wilder’s reputation, and I’m curious how he’d handle an actual battle of attrition.
                  Last edited by SplitSecond; 09-25-2022, 09:08 AM.

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                    #29
                    He’s a tough nights work for anyone, even Tyson Fury.

                    Joyce didn’t even get out of second gear against Parker, he’s a bad man

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                      I don't think Fury is super strong for his size, who has he actually bulled inside the ring? USS Cunningham, Wilder. I don't think he was bulling Whyte, who could hardly move by the time he fought Fury.

                      When Fury faces Joyce, or even Joshua. Fury is not going to be able to bull them, especially not Joyce. Joyce has greater physical strength, and his endurance is greater. I have already highlighted the data from Fury's fights at elite level.
                      Fury & Joshua are very close on out-put and work rate, Joshua for the most part is out working Fury 'But for some reason Fury is classed as some sort of endurance machine'.

                      So stylistically it is a really interesting fight. But I would still say right now, that Fury would find a way to win.

                      Fury will be hitting Joyce that is for sure, as the rounds go by? He will be collecting points. It will probably be a very damaging fight.

                      I think currently right now Fury will view Joyce, the same way Calzaghe viewed Froch.

                      You are right and I agree. Joe Joyce has to be the strongest man in the heavyweight division right now. I can't see Tyson Fury attempting to tie, manhandle and rough him up like he did an undersized Deontay Wilder.

                      It would prove to be a very difficult task because Joyce is massively huge and a relentless body puncher with a granite chin. Unlike Wilder he moves his hands and never stops throwing punches. So something has to land,

                      Moreover, he throws them in bunches which is very rare for a heavyweight his size.

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