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  • El_Mero
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    #11
    Originally posted by champion4ever

    You got to rough Wilder up on the inside by holding, hugging, leaning and wearing on him like Tyson did. Usyk cannot believe in his mind that he is going to win this fight by out boxing Wilder from the outside while circling him with lateral movement for a full twelve rounds.

    Wilder is at his most dangerous while fighting off the front foot. Oleksandr can run but he can't hide. Wilder is going to be very strong and fresh the longer the fight goes while Usyk tires and become a stationary target for Deontay's equalizer then the fight would be a wrap.
    Cant hit what u cant see. Usyk got the IT factor. Wilder has the punch factor. And weve seen him get outboxed by less talented fighters b4 only for them to make the mistake and get clipped. Nobody has ever made Usyk wobble

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    • champion4ever
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      #12
      Originally posted by El_Mero

      Cant hit what u cant see. Usyk got the IT factor. Wilder has the punch factor. And weve seen him get outboxed by less talented fighters b4 only for them to make the mistake and get clipped. Nobody has ever made Usyk wobble
      Yes that much is true because he has never tasted the power of Deontay Wilder; One of the strongest and hardest punchers in boxing's heavyweight history.

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      • Silence
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        #13
        Middleweight in October.

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        • Pigeons
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          #14
          Fury and Usyk cleaning up Joshua and Wilder will only enhance the promotion of the eventual Fury-Usyk fight.

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          • Ghost Jab
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            #15
            I don’t see why Usyk would fight Wilder.
            It’s high risk, low reward.

            If it happens, I think Usyk outboxes him for the vast majority, but risks getting knocked out in the 8th or 9th round (where he typically tends to slump / slow a bit before coming on strong at the end).

            Of course, there’s always a small chance Usyk can chin Wilder’s best. Much is made of Tyson getting up from two brutal right hand KD’s and two rabbit punch KD’s in the course of their fights. But the man never had an ATG chin to begin with, only ATG heart and will to fight.

            We’ve never seen Wilder in there with a truly granite-chinned fighter like Tua or McCall. Closest has been Duhaupas, upon whom he landed his vaunted right hand multiple times on, and in brutal damaging fashion. But, Duhaupas never tasted the canvas. Wilder won that fight convincingly via TKO due to Johann’s face slowly turning into ground hamburger mincemeat. But Usyk would not be that stationary, and like someone here said, he’s never been dropped. If he can take Wilder’s best like Duhaupas did, but keep the punches landed to a minimum, it could be an easy decision win for him. Bottom line is, no one wants to get hit by Wilder as it’s simply too risky and too painful. But, as we all know, there ARE ways to beat the man. And Fury only showed us one of them.

            Plus, we honestly don’t know what condition Wilder is in. If he, as his brother claimed, was seriously dented up by the second Fury fight, the beating he took in the third one was worse.
            Last edited by Ghost Jab; 09-23-2022, 11:32 AM.

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            • The Old LefHook
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              #16
              Are there any pictures of that idiot when his mouth is not open a yard?

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                #17
                Originally posted by Ghost Jab
                I don’t see why Usyk would fight Wilder.
                It’s high risk, low reward.
                Usyk already beat Joshua twice. If he can`t get Fury fight, Wilder is the biggest option left.

                Regardless his lack of boxing skills, Wilder is still one of the biggest names in division.

                If Usyk wants to make money, he must fight Fury and Wilder.

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                • MrShakeAndBake
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                  #18
                  Usyk was winning his first Gold medal while Wilder was being tought by Lenox on how to throw a jab on the parking lot lol someone tell this fool there are levels

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                  • DClefthook
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by El_Mero

                    Cant hit what u cant see. Usyk got the IT factor. Wilder has the punch factor. And weve seen him get outboxed by less talented fighters b4 only for them to make the mistake and get clipped. Nobody has ever made Usyk wobble
                    Wilder never lost to a cruiser weight, only a HW. Usyk is a good fighter but be has not proven himself to be a great HW. He's only had four fights at HW and hasn't won any in devastating fashion like a true HW would. 1) the fight with Chaz tablespoon was semi competitive until his fat ass gassed out and couldn't continue 2) he went life and death with Chisora for 12 rounds 3) 4) were both with AJ and although Usyk clearly won that fight on points he didn't fuq him up. As a matter of fact he hasn't fuqed any HW up. He didn't knock anyone out, drop or cut anyone. He does not have enough power for Wilder to respect him. Wilder is not a boxer so he will not out box Usyk. Usyk is not a great fighter. Wilder wins by devastating KO!

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                    • DClefthook
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Ghost Jab
                      I don’t see why Usyk would fight Wilder.
                      It’s high risk, low reward.

                      If it happens, I think Usyk outboxes him for the vast majority, but risks getting knocked out in the 8th or 9th round (where he typically tends to slump / slow a bit before coming on strong at the end).

                      Of course, there’s always a small chance Usyk can chin Wilder’s best. Much is made of Tyson getting up from two brutal right hand KD’s and two rabbit punch KD’s in the course of their fights. But the man never had an ATG chin to begin with, only ATG heart and will to fight.

                      We’ve never seen Wilder in there with a truly granite-chinned fighter like Tua or McCall. Closest has been Duhaupas, upon whom he landed his vaunted right hand multiple times on, and in brutal damaging fashion. But, Duhaupas never tasted the canvas. Wilder won that fight convincingly via TKO due to Johann’s face slowly turning into ground hamburger mincemeat. But Usyk would not be that stationary, and like someone here said, he’s never been dropped. If he can take Wilder’s best like Duhaupas did, but keep the punches landed to a minimum, it could be an easy decision win for him. Bottom line is, no one wants to get hit by Wilder as it’s simply too risky and too painful. But, as we all know, there ARE ways to beat the man. And Fury only showed us one of them.

                      Plus, we honestly don’t know what condition Wilder is in. If he, as his brother claimed, was seriously dented up by the second Fury fight, the beating he took in the third one was worse.
                      Wilder only loses to someone who is 6'9 with skills and comes in the ring on fight night 280 lbs. But I do agree with you that we don't know if those 2 Fury fights took something out of him permanently. Fury took a lot of damage too during the three fights but he didn't show any negative effects against Whyte. So I think he'll be OK.

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