Comments Thread For: Photos: Deontay Wilder Putting in Work For Robert Helenius Showdown

[PRINCEKOOL]

Deontay's body looks a lot better. He seems like he got some of that powerlifting mass off and is leaner and more wiry with a build more suitable for a puncher like him. Note how how his elbows are still flared out to the sides when he holds up his hands. Kinda like how a chicken wing looks

Wilder just does not carry weight very well, or struggles to turn it into functional mass. I think he had the right game plan vs Fury III, but needed more time to physical acclimatize to the higher weight he was at 'But he all so nearly executed the game plan, good effort'.

Some fighters can achieve this better, making mass functional. Joshua for example has been over 10 pounds heavier than his last fight, and still performed well. Joshua was 250 pounds vs Kiltschko, and this is for me still one of his best performances. The fight was fought at a high intensity, and put a lot of emphasis on his endurance, durability and resolve.

The flared of elbows, is like a bow and arrow mechanic. This technical trait does kind of broadcast his punches.

I agree, that it is better of Wilder just to train and to not specifically try and match these other super heavyweights at their mass games. I expect Wilder to be between 210-225 pounds in these return fights.

Focus on fitness and overall conditioning, and then whatever weight he comes in at? That will be his functional weight. Old School attitude.

[robbyheartbaby]

Great to see Wilder back he looks to be genuinely enjoying himself the next chapter of his career will be exciting let's go!

[champion4ever]

Deontay Wilder is bold and brave as Hell. He has a strong will with a fierce determination.

[Slowhand]

Deontay's body looks a lot better. He seems like he got some of that powerlifting mass off and is leaner and more wiry with a build more suitable for a puncher like him. Note how how his elbows are still flared out to the sides when he holds up his hands. Kinda like how a chicken wing looks

At least they match with his chicken legs.

[mromano]

If Wilder is right and not mentally wrecked, he should get Helenius out of there by RD3. We will see where Wilder is the first time he gets hit with a decent shot, if he does. I will root for Wilder because I like comeback stories. I think he beats everyone in the division not named Tyson Fury.

[ShoulderRoll]

Wilder just does not carry weight very well, or struggles to turn it into functional mass. I think he had the right game plan vs Fury III, but needed more time to physical acclimatize to the higher weight he was at 'But he all so nearly executed the game plan, good effort'.

Some fighters can achieve this better, making mass functional. Joshua for example has been over 10 pounds heavier than his last fight, and still performed well. Joshua was 250 pounds vs Kiltschko, and this is for me still one of his best performances. The fight was fought at a high intensity, and put a lot of emphasis on his endurance, durability and resolve.

The flared of elbows, is like a bow and arrow mechanic. This technical trait does kind of broadcast his punches.

I agree, that it is better of Wilder just to train and to not specifically try and match these other super heavyweights at their mass games. I expect Wilder to be between 210-225 pounds in these return fights.

Focus on fitness and overall conditioning, and then whatever weight he comes in at? That will be his functional weight. Old School attitude.

What?

Joshua gassed after the 9th round. He's carrying way too much muscle mass which sucks up way too much oxygen.

It would be even worse for him if championship fights were still a true test of 15 rounds like in the old days.

[Ry92]

Wilder vs usyk lets make it happen it more entertaining than fury vs usyk. Fury vs Usyk i feel fury wins 9 outta 10 while wilder because hes unorthodox with a sledgehammer thats alive through 12 offers a 50/50 to 60/40 Usyk wilder fight. Would Usyk get back up if Wilder lands an intriguing fight

[PRINCEKOOL]

What?

Joshua gassed after the 9th round. He's carrying way too much muscle mass which sucks up way too much oxygen.

It would be even worse for him if championship fights were still a true test of 15 rounds like in the old days.

Repeating cliches, right. Do you think Tyson Fury is some sort of 15 round fighter or something?

Anthony Joshua's endurance is not his best at attribute, but it is definitely not as bad as people make out.

And Tyson Fury's is completely and utterly overrated.

Anthony Joshua in all of his elite level fights, is for the most part out working Tyson Fury or near enough matching him.

Joshua vs Kiltschko, Joshua vs Usyk. Joshua's out put is greater than Tyson Fury's vs Deontay Wilder 'In all three fights'.

Yes I know, not all the Fury fights went the distance. But even in the third fight, if Tyson Fury would of carried on his trajectory 'He still would not of matched Joshua's work rate'.

Joshua vs Kiltschko only threw 16 less punches than Fury. Tyson Fury's fight went the distance vs Kiltschko 'While Joshua ****** Kiltschko out just inside 11 rounds'.

When you actually critically analyse things for yourself, and don't just buy into narratives and cliches 'Your perception will change'.

Anthony Joshua's overall condition is better than 95% of the Heavyweights in the division. And I actually think Joshua's endurance is quite comparable and level with Tyson Fury's.

But I do agree with what you are saying about 15 round fights. For sure these super heavyweights around today, would have a extremely difficult time.

Overall the point I am making here, is that Joshua's endurance is not as bad as people make out. Usyk's endurance for me, is his best attribute 'His endurance, and technical ability' They are his two strongest attributes, his speed is good but not super elite.

Note: Is there a problem with Fury's endurance? No, but now you are realizing that he is not his monster endurance fighter like people also try and claim. I have not really seen any great feats of endurance from Fury at world class or elite level. Out of the two fighters, Joshua vs Fury 'Joshua has actually produced the greater feats of endurance'.

Getting up off the deck vs Kiltschko to then fight on for many more rounds and eventually **** out Kiltschko. Is a greater feat of endurance than anything Fury has achieved. Not only was he decked early in the fight, he had to then survive heavy bombardment.

Tyson Fury's greatest feat of endurance was vs Wilder I. Surviving a knock out blow in the 12th round, getting up off the deck to fight back until the end of the round.