GGG Career Dedication Thread

[Silence]

GGG's epic journey continues....beyond all belief !!!

The next mountain to climb is N Ishioda. Dude is famous for KO1 J Kirkland.
The J Kirkland.
Yeah, ATG Ishida was coming off a 2 fight losing streak but so what

Talk about DRAMA ....

GGG's quest for greatness never gets easy. Macklin is the next pitstop

They don't come much tougher than this guy.

Someone should have checked GGG's mental health by this time. No way in hell a boxer of sound mind goes through such a gauntlet.
GGG will not be deterred from his mission.

Ishida KO'd Kirkland R1, Canelo KO'd Kirkland R3. GGG KO'd Ishida R3.

GGG > Ishida > Canelo

That's what we call GREATNESS.

[BodyBagz]

Ishida KO'd Kirkland R1, Canelo KO'd Kirkland R3. GGG KO'd Ishida R3.

GGG > Ishida > Canelo

That's what we call GREATNESS.

I'm in awe.



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[Citizen Koba]

Well God damn !!!!

Read up to the bold because it's pretty much the crux of my thread.

Let's relive his promise -
''I'll fight ANYONE 154-168.''
Does ''anyone'' actually mean ''only big names in the div he's already in'' ?!?!?

I will get back to it after my emotions have calmed down.
Reliving greatness has that affect on me.

Not sure of your point, man. HBO took him from being an out of contract / in dispute fighter at 30 years old who had just left his former promoter and had been in limbo for two years to fighting top 10 guys on the regular and unification and on the verge of undisputed at MW within 3 or 4 years. That was a major result.. SMW didn't hold any bigger names or fights except Froch or Ward (and the Haymon / SHO fighters who HBO wasn't dealing with) but his name simply wasn't big enough to be connected to either until HBO had built him from the obscure German based Kazakh that no-one had heard of in 2012 to the significant name he'd become by 2014/5 - and by that time the prospect of Undisputed and a massive unfication with either Canelo or Cotto was in the offing - in short he'd already made it.

Still not sure what argument you're trying to make though... GGGs problem was that he turned pro late (at 24) then landed with a promoter who prioritised their bigger fighters and more or less imposed a glass celing - then when GGG tried to leave for someone that would get him big fights imposed an injuction on him that literally had him fighting in sports halls and offering to fight without pay to land decent opponents. Once he got got picked up by HBO at nearly age 31 things progressed very well (given their budgetary restraints and the cold war with Haymon/SHO) but there was just too little time left in his prime to make as much as a splash as would have happened if his break had come 10 years earlier.

Had he signed straight out of the ammys today in the US under say Arum or GBP they would almost certainly have led him in at 154 but in Germany in 2006/7 all the names were at 160 so that's where he kicked off and once he hit the US the only leverage he had was his WBA World belt at 160 - how else were they gonna sell him?

Whatever though man - you and I both already know how the sport works - fighters don't just click their fingers and get the fights they want unless they got the real money behind em - your Floyds or Canelos or DLHs - the rest of em pick up the scraps. No one's fault it just is what it is.

And yeah man - sure your feelings. You started a whole thread because you're upset at one or two posters for picking on your dude. I get it. That **** used to bother me more too. Trolling never makes you into the better dude tho, my man... although you got quite an amusing talent for sarcasm. Like it.

[BodyBagz]

Not sure of your point, man. HBO took him from being an out of contract / in dispute fighter at 30 years old who had just left his former promoter and had been in limbo for two years to fighting top 10 guys on the regular and unification and on the verge of undisputed at MW within 3 or 4 years. That was a major result.. SMW didn't hold any bigger names or fights except Froch or Ward (and the Haymon / SHO fighters who HBO wasn't dealing with) but his name simply wasn't big enough to be connected to either until HBO had built him from the obscure German based Kazakh that no-one had heard of in 2012 to the significant name he'd become by 2014/5 - and by that time the prospect of Undisputed and a massive unfication with either Canelo or Cotto was in the offing - in short he'd already made it.

Still not sure what argument you're trying to make though... GGGs problem was that he turned pro late (at 24) then landed with a promoter who prioritised their bigger fighters and more or less imposed a glass celing - then when GGG tried to leave for someone that would get him big fights imposed an injuction on him that literally had him fighting in sports halls and offering to fight without pay to land decent opponents. Once he got got picked up by HBO at nearly age 31 things progressed very well (given their budgetary restraints and the cold war with Haymon/SHO) but there was just too little time left in his prime to make as much as a splash as would have happened if his break had come 10 years earlier.

Had he signed straight out of the ammys today in the US under say Arum or GBP they would almost certainly have led him in at 154 but in Germany in 2006/7 all the names were at 160 so that's where he kicked off and once he hit the US the only leverage he had was his WBA World belt at 160 - how else were they gonna sell him?

Whatever though man - you and I both already know how the sport works - fighters don't just click their fingers and get the fights they want unless they got the real money behind em - your Floyds or Canelos or DLHs - the rest of em pick up the scraps. No one's fault it just is what it is.

And yeah man - sure your feelings. You started a whole thread because you're upset at one or two posters for picking on your dude. I get it. That **** used to bother me more too. Trolling never makes you into the better dude tho, my man... although you got quite an amusing talent for sarcasm. Like it.

I ain't even done with the 1st one

[Apollo7]

The bitterness..

[QueensburyRules]

Not really.

He got credit for some wba regular title defenses. He wasn't the super wba champion until like 7 defenses in.

It's like tank getting credit for regular wba ightweight title defenses while haney is the wlsuper wba champion.

- - Poppy ducked his Dibella contract for fights against Super Joe and Roy that he had to pay a 4 mil settlement that Oscar ended up paying for him.

Everyone was ducking GGG, and when they fought him they got KOed unless they ran, and he still koed most of those runners/stinkers

Was U outta diapers by then?

[Citizen Koba]

I ain't even done with the 1st one

No worries man, ain't particularly for your benefit anyways. I know you're just trolling and ain't genuinely interested in the hows and whys of GGGs career, I was more putting it out there for the sake of those who might be.

[BodyBagz]

Before I take time to read Koba's GGG dissertations, let me point out the obvious....
GGG's ''resume'' needs to be brought to the front.

If his people (AKA The GGGroupies) don't like it, how the FCK do they think the rest of us feel ?
You think I'm mocking his resume ?
I'm not.
I'm just putting some....how you say.....panache to the mundane.

Bitter ?
Nah.
Just wanting certain fan bases know I have a sense of humor too .
My sarcasm comes off as bitterness

The GGGroupies and their offshoots (Haters) are among the biggest hypocrites known to the sport.
Biv was a cherry
Nelo is picking on an old man.
Nelo is a big MW

Are they out of their fcking minds ???

So instead of getting into an endless back and forth, I am putting all myths into the toilet.

And the bitter ones are his fans
They get all name-cally an stuff

[BodyBagz]

Because it's not a positive thread man. Golovkin was an exceptional fighter who didn't get the early breaks that he needed to really shine. Happens to many, many super talented fighters. For every Canelo or Mayweather or Loma or DLH who get every opportunity to shine there's a dozen fighters as talented or nearly as talented who for one reason or another never got the same opportunities. It's one of the unfortunate side effects of the way the sport is structured and ain't really something to celebrate.

Look I know you ain't really got any issue with GGG it's just that you're upset that some posters ridicule your favourite guy, but that's how it is, no matter which fighters you like simple fact is not everyone will for whatever reason, stooping to the level of trolling don't make the forum a better place, don't particularly say anything much good about you as an individual and simply perpetuates the cycle.

Further to that I'd have to point out that whilst a lack of really big name MWs in the US market hampered GGG ability to land really big fights and his loss of about 3 years of his prime fighting Universum really stymied his chances of an elite career what you're mainly doing is illustrating that you really weren't following the MW division GGG was operating in in 2010 - 2015... nor followed the various intrigues by which various fighters either flat avoided (Sturm, Barker, Zbik) or chose lower risk, higher reward options (Geale, Martinez, N'Dam) or were on the other side of the HBO / SHO firewall (Quillin et al) - not every fighter is in the enviable postion of Canelo where they can wave the kinds of purses opponents don't turn down. Despite this GGG actaully did have a very good MW career and fought or attempted to fight most of the top MWs of the time... folowing his career from a virtual unknown (outside the hardcore) and watching him break out into the mainstream conciousness was in fact a real pleasure, as was watching the man fight. At his peak he was one of the very best in the sport - a methodical, calculated engine of destruction.

Were you even watching middleweight boxing 10 years ago, man? Impression I always got you're more the kinda guy who just follows a handful of the big name fighters in the US market and doesn't really pay attention much beyond that, but could be I got you wrong. Nothing wrong with that of course, we each got a right to enjoy the sport our own way, just strikes me the way you talk ain't like someone who was following MW back then

https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2009
https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2010
https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2011
https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2012

Look I ain't got any issue with Canelo, got huge respect for the dude as a fighter in fact, but the simple fact is that Canelo was groomed for success - the WBC and Vegas were looking for their next ODLH to keep the $$$s rolling in (they were trying with Chavez Jr first but he turned out to be a dud) - and was handed opportunity after opportunity to shine - and to his credit he had the ability to take advantage of those opportunities and the hunger to pursue them, but vanishingly few fighters get that kind of backing and those kinda opportunities.

Anyway, that said, knock yourself out. Great thread. Hope it helps you work through some of your feelings.

''Because it's not a positive thread man''
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The videos are of PRIME GGG fighting his opponents. No trickery involved. Actual names, actual fights. Call them what you will.

''Exceptional fighter........no breaks......others got breaks.....''
Yes. GGG is better than his resume. This is when the excuses come pouring out.
No one here at BS.com could have managed GGG any better than those he had. To say the people he had around him did him a disservice is lame. Loma spent most of his life wearing head gear too and he somehow made a himself to be the man to beat. He had as much backing as he needed to fulfill his promise. No one was ducking him and can't no Groupie supply links to back up that claim.

You are kinda correct. I do have an issue with him not keeping his promise.
His fans make it almost impossible to root for him with their blatant hypocrisy. They don't have to like Nelo, but aim that snobbery at GGG as well. Who's to say if PRIME GGG fought more serious minded boxers, if GGG would have been in a position to win the Nelo sweepstakes ? Had he moved up and fought bigger ''bums'', he masy have ran into his own boogeyman.

That's another strike against GGG. Chasing a worthless MW record. Or should be worthless if a fight fan is honest. Wow......GGG KO'd how many MW cans in a row ?!?!? As if a Groupie would ever ask themselves that question. GTFO of that dead div and make a new name for yourself, but nah.

Nelo was a young boy fighting men. Less than 50 practice fights. He had bigger fish to fry.

I think I covered the main bits in a Quentin Tarantino way ?

[BodyBagz]

Not sure of your point, man. HBO took him from being an out of contract / in dispute fighter at 30 years old who had just left his former promoter and had been in limbo for two years to fighting top 10 guys on the regular and unification and on the verge of undisputed at MW within 3 or 4 years. That was a major result.. SMW didn't hold any bigger names or fights except Froch or Ward (and the Haymon / SHO fighters who HBO wasn't dealing with) but his name simply wasn't big enough to be connected to either until HBO had built him from the obscure German based Kazakh that no-one had heard of in 2012 to the significant name he'd become by 2014/5 - and by that time the prospect of Undisputed and a massive unfication with either Canelo or Cotto was in the offing - in short he'd already made it.

Still not sure what argument you're trying to make though... GGGs problem was that he turned pro late (at 24) then landed with a promoter who prioritised their bigger fighters and more or less imposed a glass celing - then when GGG tried to leave for someone that would get him big fights imposed an injuction on him that literally had him fighting in sports halls and offering to fight without pay to land decent opponents. Once he got got picked up by HBO at nearly age 31 things progressed very well (given their budgetary restraints and the cold war with Haymon/SHO) but there was just too little time left in his prime to make as much as a splash as would have happened if his break had come 10 years earlier.

Had he signed straight out of the ammys today in the US under say Arum or GBP they would almost certainly have led him in at 154 but in Germany in 2006/7 all the names were at 160 so that's where he kicked off and once he hit the US the only leverage he had was his WBA World belt at 160 - how else were they gonna sell him?

Whatever though man - you and I both already know how the sport works - fighters don't just click their fingers and get the fights they want unless they got the real money behind em - your Floyds or Canelos or DLHs - the rest of em pick up the scraps. No one's fault it just is what it is.

And yeah man - sure your feelings. You started a whole thread because you're upset at one or two posters for picking on your dude. I get it. That **** used to bother me more too. Trolling never makes you into the better dude tho, my man... although you got quite an amusing talent for sarcasm. Like it.

Mostly the same stuff....''Poor GGG ..''

Fck him.

I wish people would stop projecting emotions on people.